US Midterms 2022 - Read OP before posting

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119840113#Comment_119840113

Anyone HERE, I said. Not some no mark you found by typing ‘DeSantis fascist’ into Twitter.

Ive seen loads of people online calling Biden a fascist but I don’t accept that’s the majority view, so I don’t pretend that it is.

Seriously, calm the f*ck down with the rhetoric.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119840148#Comment_119840148

The subject of the US midterms and Ron DeSantis is an American question, and so limiting the discussion to what individual posters say here does a disservice to what's actually happening, you know, in the United States.

It's funny that you say, "...calm the f*ck down", without realising the irony of your words.

My points stand.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119840113#Comment_119840113

See this? It's honestly like satire. DeSantis promoting liberty and independence was supposedly something dark and scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhqPrEO9xFU&t=83s

This comment summed it up best:

Honestly their primal fear of not being able to control others is both astounding and absolutely hilarious

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119839927#Comment_119839927

Well he is quasi fascist and a closet white supremacist. 😶

His political use of law enforcement for example and his comments above to his black students.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119840103#Comment_119840103

It didn't take long though, did it?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841381#Comment_119841381

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841390#Comment_119841390

I didn’t call him a Fascist though. Quasi fascist. Keep up.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841397#Comment_119841397

By referring to DeSantis as quasi-fascist, you are deliberately aligning him with Hitler, Mussolini, and Joe Stalin; people who have collectively killed tens of millions of people.

That's the purpose of the smear, otherwise you wouldn't have raised the word fascist in whatever form it took.

And that's your right to do so.

But as I said earlier today, the greatest recruiting sergeant for Republicans is the far-left because, through this kind of extreme language, it only isolates them further and makes Republicans appear far more rational.

TomTomTim

Another ad that could easily be satire. Truck driving Trump supporter hunts down minority children for fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVckRJvuBQY

America truly takes madness to another level and sadly many Irish people are following their path.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841412#Comment_119841412

Gosh you love taking every tiny thing to 11.

By this measure people link Biden to Hitler etc. so moot and null.

lumphammer2

Why would anyone vote Republican? They are the cause of every problem in the world today .... I'd rather vote for the toilet ...

America is crying out for a 3+ party orientation ... a third and moderate party is needed and fast ... the Republicans of Gilead = war mongers, liars, conspiracy nutjobs ...

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841640#Comment_119841640

I legitimately loathe mainstream Republicans, for very different reasons than you though. But will you show us your work? How are they cause of every problem in the world? Yes they are traditionally war mongers, but so are the Democrats. Trump Republicans rose to power because they were sick of the old ways, where wars took center stage, and the people sat at the back being ignored, hence the revolt.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841640#Comment_119841640

TOTALLY agree - but instead of toilet I wrote in INANIMATE CARBON ROD in every race where a Republican was unopposed, when I early voted.

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841659#Comment_119841659

What you say is correct ... that is also why I say that a third party is needed ... the current Republicans are awful and the Democrats only marginally better ... warmongers all ... the evidence of them causing ... or contributing at the very least to every major problem ... is all around ...

The 2020 election denying, the 2021 January 6th carry on ... all that promotes violence and division ...

The 2018 withdrawal from the Iran deal/subsequent sanctions ... caused hardliners to hijack Iran's presidency and parliament ... leading to the current situation ... The Democrats did not end the sanctions though ... which is again why I do not rate them much if at all different to the Republicans ..

Trump was too pally with Putin ... had his own gripe with Ukraine .. I'd love to know what both talked about behind closed shutters in Helsinki that time ...

If I was American I'd refrain from voting ... Willy McToilet all the way for president !!! He cannot be much worse ...

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841695#Comment_119841695

You've mention three things, and none of them come even close to establishing that they are to blame for all of the worlds problems. You were obviously being dramatic, but even if we focus on American alone, I'm not sure how you think you've supported your assertion.

Election denying: Both sides play that game, I posted a clip on this thread earlier with the Democrats doing it over and over. J6 was obviously bad in isolation, but nothing really happened since that "promotes violence". It was widely condemned by nearly every Republican too.

Iran: Iran is an Islamic sh**hole as Trump would say, it's been hard-line long before 2018.

Putin: Maybe so, but we know for a fact that Putin didn't attack Ukraine during Trump's reign, he waited until he was gone, which brings into question how friendly they were. Wouldn't it have been wiser to attack when your "ally" was in power, which would make the attack have a higher probability of success?

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841743#Comment_119841743

America is a superpower .... and has been a major causer of problems since WW2 .. or at least has been involved in them ... that whole cold war thing ... apart from natural distasters, etc. that thing has caused most of the world's problems ...

Iran has not been hardline during all of its history ... in fact there are 2 factions fighting for dominance there ... one much more moderate than the other ... every time the moderate faction has the upper hand the US has called it Axis of Evil, put on sanctions, withdrew from the deal, etc. and handed a cause to the hardline faction ... lest not forget that Kermit Roosevelt kid back in the 1950s ... interference and demonisation of Iran has caused these problems ... the same goes for how ISIS and Al Qaeda came to be ... all the cold war and the hot wars in the Middle East too ...

The Ukraine war escalation ... the war is goingon since 2014 ... may or may not have happened before 2022 ... but Covid 19 was at its height in 2020-21 ... but who will benefit most from this war? The Republicans and the far right in Europe is who ... it could all be the plan ... hard to know ... this war may have been launched to cause a deliberate reaction ... to enable a longterm goal of helping the European and US far right ... it may and probably is not really about Ukraine/Russia at all and the people of both are just cannon fodder in a global aim ..

BruteStock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841640#Comment_119841640

lol , Democratic are in power not Republicans therefor its obviously the Dems if any party is responsible for "every problem in the world"

What you see here is all left-wing / Democratic extremist violence . America is in serious trouble if the Dems take bad losses in the upcoming elections

https://twitter.com/DogRightGirl/status/1587941950178598919

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119842126#Comment_119842126

Democratic extremist violence . America is in serious trouble if the Dems take bad losses in the upcoming elections

We agree on this for polarized reasons ;)

(But yes, that's indeed a riot that happened alongside the inauguration and it was contemptible - if they had actually disrupted the inauguration yes I would have expected inquiries)

This video shows why Republicans apparently don't often try to be true representatives.

https://twitter.com/BeauTFC/status/1589135513260158978?s=20&t=FiI3PYb76aY2IRcnI9n8kA

I mean, he clearly understands the true job of a Representative, but he's going to probably figure out that the Republican platform often makes them such adversaries of their own constituency.

Overheal

……

https://twitter.com/latestinspace/status/1589375486136057856?s=46&t=8ry52XFiR5o70zdIZFqZHg

Overheal

Des Moines Register may be in for a legal shitstorm after allowing its own presses to be used to distribute an actual fake newspaper chocked full of election disinformation

https://www.bleedingheartland.com/2022/11/05/gannett-prints-fake-newspapers-at-des-moines-register-plant/?fbclid=IwAR3wQ2lVEWqug6yUN7BjvSXzl1bubQ8X7Mp6SBUpeuN9pD_j3elzvcU0haY

Overheal

I can laugh and eyeroll at a lot of shyte in politics but this actually boils my piss. This morning I woke up to the headline that Nikki Haley called for US Senator Raphael Warnock to be DEPORTED, at a Herschel Walker rally on Sunday night.

She's not just the fmr. governor of SC, or a fmr. Ambassador for Trump early in his term, but she's a board of trustee member for Clemson University and as an alum and having much ties to the University it incensed me that these would be her comments, she also received an honorary degree from the university in 2018 yet displays a total lack in second degree thinking.

The campus is on fall break, but I've been in touch with the secretary of the university president to solicit a comment from him about the matter who assured me he would receive the message. I also got in touch with a former president of the Clemson staff senate for her response (clear disapproval) as well as the alumni association and the board of trustees administrators office.

Overheal

Ted Cruz slugged with a solid beer can (not cool) while being booed the f* out of it at a military rally (wow)

https://twitter.com/wcgroovy/status/1589708360076922880?s=20&t=o4osnlRDz1w08FO1THdhfg

gmisk

The fact that Herschel Walker fella is ahead in the polls seems pretty loopy...but hey America!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119840097#Comment_119840097

I am.

jimmybobbyschweiz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119841695#Comment_119841695

Remember, after the 2016 elections the Democrats refused to acknowledge the result and accept Trump as president. The two parties are two cheeks of the same fat, ignorant, war mongering, corporate-favouring, anti-democratic arse.

There's a fairly detailed Wikipedia page on a two party political system and the disadvantages section is interesting to read and I fully agree with all it says on disadvantages, in particular voter apathy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system

AMKC

Here is hoping that the Demecrats keep control of both the senate and the House of Representitives and the Biden does not become a lame duck President. He really does not deserve that.

Them that will finish any chances Trump has of going for re election again and the can continue there cases against him to eventually get him to where he should be. Into a prison.

Yeah, get Trump into prison where he belongs , especially for election results denial etc .........

https://twitter.com/i/status/1587887429645656064

Em ..... Wait a minute .......

#TheyAllBelongInPrison

#AmericaIsAShithole

Frank Bullitt

Watching this stuff makes me so glad I do not live in America. It has been crumbling for the last few years now, look at the state of some of the candidates running and how they might win.

Land of the free and stupid.

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847488#Comment_119847488

Idiocracy

Dumb movie, watched it again a few weeks ago, but fuckin hell it's coming true

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847586#Comment_119847586

Eh, Clinton conceded the night of the election

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847679#Comment_119847679

...which side went on to storm the capital again?

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847816#Comment_119847816

To be fair though their POTUS was damn cool 😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig446isvXlI

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847586#Comment_119847586

I have to agree ... and Trump could have ended up as a Democrat too ... afterall he was one ... Trump and his ilk represents all that is wrong with America and guys like him support both parties to ensure their corporate favouring ant democratic yes man gets into power ...

You can see that both parties are addicted to war ... from 1991 to date there has been more or less 31 years of American involvement in some war ... Iraq .. Somalia .. former Yugoslavia ... Sudan ... Afghanistan ... Libya ... Syria ... plus all the wars they planned but were stopped completing ... Iran and so on ...

It is amazing how many Americans fall for the lies rich clowns spout at them ... America first .. make America great again .. and the like ... such rhetoric is used by both parties and they do not mean it ...

This phenomenon of not accepting the result is a trend that adds fuel to the fire ... ironically it would be the type of thing the American regime would accuse some other country they hate of doing !!! ... if both parties claim the election was rigged as happened in 2016 and 2020 ... and by groups like the Tea Party not the then Republican candidate in 2012 ... and start spreading conspiracy theories and lies ... then more January 6ths happen and a slide towards civil war and Republic of Gilead style dystopia is not too far away ... but you'll have an Elon Musk or some other flavour of the decade billionaire waiting in the wing obo either party to 'save America' ... worse still poor fools will believe these billionaires actually care about them !! ..

America's so-called leaders are obsessed with the Middle East ... ironically they are turning their own country into the more unstable ME states ....

lumphammer2

Candidates Jack S. Hit and Anus McToilet slug it out ... Hit wants to go to war with Eye Ran that African place ... and McToilet wants to free Eye Ran from its African bandit overlord ...

Candidate Hit wants to cut government spending and tax the poor to fund the rich ... and McToilet wants to tax the poor to fund projects benefiting the rich ...

Candidate Hit likes to ban abortion ... but his daughter had one 10 years ago funded by Hit himself ... while McToilet is pro-abortion but his daughter never had one ...

Candidate Hit wants to make America Great Again while McToilet wants to bring American back again ...

Candidate Hit likes to be seen around big corporate types ... while candidate McToilet likes to seen around big corporate types ....

Candidate Hit suffers from Gileadpox and accuses candidate McToilet of suffering from dungkeepox ... both are pandemics in human form ...

Larbre34

Lol at the Cruz beer toss. And it is perfectly cool, he reaps what he sows.

I love the Cop's reaction which is basically 'nice shot my dude'.

Cody montana

Any predictions?

EOQRTL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119835980#Comment_119835980

First im hearing about this literally days later. Incredible. If the roles had of been reversed it would be 24/7 non stop coverage talk about violent right wing extremists etc....

EOQRTL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847811#Comment_119847811

For me it can be summed up by their last two presidents. Like if that is what America has to offer then you might as well just forget about the whole place as it is gone to the dogs.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848098#Comment_119848098

Would they blame his “secret gay lover”?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848041#Comment_119848041

Supporting political violence is never okay, regardless of how much you may object to the politics of Ted Cruz.

I'm personally not a fan of the guy, but this attack is simply not okay.

Utterly disgraceful how you and others here actively support it.

Ham_Sandwich

oh no how terrible a nazi got clocked with a beer can, my heart bleeds

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848847#Comment_119848847

Sorry to break it to you, but not everyone who disagrees with you is a National Socialist.

You are also defending political violence. That's not on.

Indeed, it's that kind of reckless language that seeds division, and is partly why the Republicans are going to do so well in these midterm elections.

The Republicans will take control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate in tonight's US Midterm elections, according to the latest betting on the Betfair Exchange.

On the back of this success, Donald Trump is likely to see this as evidence that his politics is still popular among voters and will announce his candidacy for the 2024 General Election.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848678#Comment_119848678

As was well said in the past:

"Their violence is viewed as speech, our speech is viewed as violence".

The same posters who think that any view that goes against their own is radical and a danger to society, have to no issues promoting political violence, while somehow thinking that their political violence is harmless. The irony too is that the tolerance of the people that they consider intolerant is the only thing that's stopping this all from erupting. They sit at home egging this stuff on in comfort, seemingly unaware of where this could all lead.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848949#Comment_119848949

Ordinary people paying their bills, struggling with the cost of living in the United States, simply do not recognize the irrelevant hysteria that many Democratic activists harp on about.

There's very little talk of what working people actually care about.

Instead, it's culture war matters, or throwing around the word Nazis, or spending all their time talking about gender identity.

Republicans just need to sit back and watch the votes flood in. They don't need to lift a finger.

Those activists, without realising it, were the greatest recruiting sergeants for the Republicans - and the louder they shout about irrelevant nonsense, the more votes it translates into for Republicans.

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847488#Comment_119847488

An African American candidate for the racist Republic of Gilead ... only in America would that happen .... and the same with the reason why some vote for him ... I heard on TV last night the reason .... because he was a good footballer !!!! No wonder America is a mess ...

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119847463#Comment_119847463

Blessed be the fruit Commander Ted .... couldn't happen to a nicer Gileadean !!

joseywhales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848101#Comment_119848101

I disagree. I actually immigrated to the us in 2017 and when I did the border guard who processed my landing with my new green card made some glib remark like "I guess not everyone thinks trump is so bad", to which I remarked "is that relevant?".

I was put off by that guy's unprofessionalism, in his role it's important that he does not express political views.

The point remains though, it was not relevant for me, the system is much bigger than the individuals at any given time. The advantages of living in the us outweigh the noise. I miss home a lot but it's a toss of a coin for me, where I'd rather be living. Certainly the money you can earn in the us is unmatched anywhere(maybe a gulf state but money is all they have), particularly if you have very specialized skills and a STEM background. They seem to need to import a lot of talent. The taxes are very low, relative to anywhere in Europe. It is a land of inequality but if you are on the right side of things, the quality of life is as high or higher than anywhere in Europe. Believe it or not there is high quality food in boutique supermarkets and fantastic restaurants, great gyms and sports clubs etc. The biggest advantage is the access to nature that I think is harder to get in Europe. There is just less people more space and more undeveloped forest and mountains.

To have your view of a country coloured by the politics of the day is kind of a shallow assessment. I can completely ignore the politics here for the next twenty years and it will have almost no impact on my quality of life. Once I don't tune into the noise. This might depend on the region you live in, I think I lucked out living in rural new England, the people are pretty chill about things here as if they've seen it all before. You'll always find a minority of nutters, you don't have to bother listening to them.

Ham_Sandwich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119848863#Comment_119848863

thers no way the nazi-I mean Republican party will win people think theyll do well but ill be laughing when they lose.

EOQRTL

So when the general public attack Democrats they are terrorists but when they attack Republicians they are sound as a pound.

You can only laugh really.

Overheal

Republicans just need to sit back and watch the votes flood in. They don't need to lift a finger.

yes they’ve shown they can win votes without doing anything. I still haven’t seen any plan to curb inflation for example. And still waiting on their infrastructure plan. And their wall. And their great replacement theory for Obamacare.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849132#Comment_119849132

Good old Nazis, known for attracting support from minority groups. How have those "white supremacists" managed that I wonder?

https://thehill.com/homenews/3722963-more-black-latino-voters-supporting-republicans-survey/