US Midterms 2022 - Read OP before posting

Faugheen · 15-11-2022 9:24am

Imagine going so far to the extremely batsh*t that you make Liz f*cking Cheney likeable.

Quin_Dub · 15-11-2022 10:07am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119875976#Comment_119875976

Looking like they will have a two or three seat majority - 220/221 with 218 needed for control.

Beyond razor thin - The infighting will be spectacular , especially if the legacy side of the GOP continue to try and squeeze Trump out.

Igotadose · 15-11-2022 10:15am

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Hilarious. Imagine all the Democrats rowing in behind Pelosi (or, some other nominee, Pelosi will cause the most angst though.) Then you just need 3 or 4 GOP to vote for that candidate. My guess is there are several contemplating retirement anyway, so why the heck not.

Lots of rumors about the GOP gunning for McConnell as well when the minority leader election happens. Heh.

Slate's got a good article about the impact of denialism on the election. Not a good strategy. Kari Lake a fine example of why it didn't work out. Paywalled, so...

Kari Lake Makes It Official: The Election Denialists Lost

https://archive.ph/MP9wa

Another thing that contributed to Hobbs winning AZ - the Democrats are perceived as much more pro-Native American rights, and the Biden admin poured money into the Indian Health Service during Covid and beyond. It appears that the Native Americans in Arizona, a significant voting block, went strongly for Hobbs. The GQP in Az (with help from the SCOTUS) had gotten up to some gerrymandering/voting suppression stuff that didn't sit well. Polling places are few and far between on the Res, there are apocryphal stories about groups of Native Americans traveling hundreds of miles on horseback to vote in this election.

SimonTemplar · 15-11-2022 10:17am

Delighted to see Lake loose. She was by far the most prominent election denier running in the midterms so her defeat is surely the last nail in the coffin for that particular movement. I wonder will she concede or will she continue to spout nonsense from the sidelines like Trump.

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-11-2022 10:46am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876193#Comment_119876193

She seems to be taking it well so far 🤣

Cody montana · 15-11-2022 11:12am

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Republicans don’t even know if McCarthy will be elected speaker yet.

How will he appease the loons in his party?

They clearly are going to start pointless investigations which will go for years and result in nothing.

Will the moderators in New York or California refuse to vote for impeachment?

It’s actually going to be comedy gold.

Brussels Sprout · 15-11-2022 11:33am

I didn't realise that Lake's opponent hadn't recused herself as Secretary of State for the election until I saw that Hannity clip. I do think it's unfair that someone could oversee their own election and someone therfore should recuse themselves rather than do that.

HOWEVER I remember that Brian Kemp did exactly the same thing in 2018 when he was running for Governor of Georgia. He was SoS and there just happened to be massive problems with voting machines in precincts where Stacey Abrams was expected to poll well.

So yeah Hannity and the rest of the Republican shills can Go F... themselves with their crocodile tears

Quin_Dub · 15-11-2022 12:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876395#Comment_119876395

That's just it - McCarthy is a weak "people pleaser" - His whole thing it trying to be every bodies friend (internal to the GOP).

That is simply not going to cut it with the rabble that have been elected to the House for the GOP.

With only a handful of votes of a margin he is going to find it impossible to get anything done , even the usual GOP obstructionist things as he won't be able to get the factions to agree.

And that's only if he manages to navigate his way to the GOP nomination for Speaker.

I think only 2 of the GOP House people that voted to impeach Trump got re-elected this time around , but given how terribly the GOP did that might actually be enough to mean that impeachment is off the table.

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-11-2022 12:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876661#Comment_119876661

They're eating each other alive and in glorious HD, And we still have TFG's big "announcement" to look forward to later today 🤣

https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1592289837373345792?t=zN3twdzYrsUvZTdm5UnANw&s=19

everlast75 · 15-11-2022 12:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876764#Comment_119876764

They are all just doing what they believe will get them re-elected.

If their mouth breathing voters want Krusty the clown to be the new House Speaker, then as ridiculous as that is, they'll push for it.

The problem is therefore their brainwashed base. And after years of telling them the election was stolen and Trump is god, it'll take time to "un-brainwash" them.

Until then, the politicians they are beholden to them and will take their lead from the crazies.

Quin_Dub · 15-11-2022 1:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876764#Comment_119876764

Trumps announcement later will be a classic of its type.

Expect him to go scorched earth on anyone that has said anything negative about him in the last few days and given the Kari Lake news overnight I expect him to go full bore on the "Stolen Election" front as well.

He will sh!t all over the GOP tonight and lean into his "Only I can fix this" schtick claiming that he needs to "drain that swamp" again.

Brussels Sprout · 15-11-2022 1:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876883#Comment_119876883

Yup. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. The question is, will those old tricks will still work?

15-11-2022 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876917#Comment_119876917

Trump cannot win in 2024, period.

What's more is that the momentum is still with DeSantis. For example, in the latest from Texas:

Florida governor Ron DeSantis led former president Donald Trump by eleven points in a new poll of likely Republican primary voters by the Republican Party of Texas.

A new YouGov survey of 413 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents found that 42 percent want DeSantis to be the party’s 2024 presidential nominee, while 35 percent would prefer Trump.

This is a complete reversal of the polls we saw in October.

So by all means Trump can run again, but he won't win again. It's a total waste of everyone's time. The midterm election results effectively cemented that outcome.

Kari Lake losing in Arizona is the cherry on the cake.

UziDoesIt · 15-11-2022 2:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877025#Comment_119877025

Correct. And contrary to popular belief, I think DeSantis would beat him in the debates if both ran. The assumption is that Trump would destroy him. Question is, with what? more nicknames? okay that was all pretty funny 6 years ago. It was a bit of a novelty to see a 'politician' calling Jeb low energy or little Rubio Marco etc. Is that going to work again? seems that it would be stale. Trump can hardly attack DeSantis on his record, so not much left for him.

DeSantis on the other hand can point to his amazing victory in Florida absolutely crushing the Democrats - whilst Trump essentially lost two elections.

marieholmfan · 15-11-2022 2:04pm

The Republicans have the house. Hunter Biden is going to jail and Ihor Kolomoisky will be joining him.

15-11-2022 2:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877078#Comment_119877078

lol

everlast75 · 15-11-2022 2:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877025#Comment_119877025

"This is a complete reversal of the polls we saw in October."

Trump led DeSantis by a significant amount in October in Texas?

15-11-2022 2:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877118#Comment_119877118

In terms of who Republicans prefer to run as presidential nominee in 2024. The link above details precisely that.

Quin_Dub · 15-11-2022 2:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877025#Comment_119877025

Asking Independents etc. really isn't the issue right now.

DeSantis being more popular than Trump in the wider Republican leaning voter pool is meaningless at this stage.

They need to be exclusively asking people who are entitled to vote in the Primaries , because that's the battle that has to be won.

The other issue that the GOP might run into is the one they had in 2016 - If they have a scenario where you have DeSantis , Pence and maybe some others like Youngkin all running , they run the risk of heavily splitting the "Not Trump" vote and allow him to build momentum , just as they did in 2016.

If Trump runs they will have to clear the field and only run one major opponent against him early on.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877078#Comment_119877078

You do know that the Houses of Congress can't put any one in jail right?

Igotadose · 15-11-2022 2:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877203#Comment_119877203

They need to be exclusively asking people who are entitled to vote in the Primaries , because that's the battle that has to be won.

Hey... but the DNC can buy ads in primaries. You know, like they did in the Midterms. Mm mm load up Iowa and Vermont with pro-Trump ads and denigrate Desantis... When you have majority unacceptable loonies running, well, strange things can happen.

There is of course the 'be careful what you wish for,' but by 2024 I think the vast majority of the US electorate will have TFG in their rear-view mirror.

VinLieger · 15-11-2022 3:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877353#Comment_119877353

But her emails!!!!

The very fact that you are telling people to google something instead of directly linking to it speaks volumes, you know full well the sources you are asking people to search for will be met with well deserved ridicule.

Overheal · 15-11-2022 3:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119876472#Comment_119876472

This. They made the bed.

Foxtrol · 15-11-2022 3:27pm

DeSantis campaigned for all of the big name GOPers who lost in the midterms.

At this stage it is completely GOP media grasping at straws to believe that he is some kind of saviour who has the power to make loony candidates palatable to moderates in swing states.

The guy has never really been tested, he has the benefit of tailwinds helping him in Florida, including the fact that the Dems are a complete mess there. Trump has plenty to attack him on, especially because Trump doesn't care if his attacks are true and/or contradictory. Going to be an enjoyable watch.

Overheal · 15-11-2022 3:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877480#Comment_119877480

That’s my thoughts too. Florida is major home field advantage and democrat turnout is deflated after what happened to Gillum. I am shocked his opponent didn’t make more noise, though: No teachers because Ron pushed them all out for example -disastrous, but something the campaign didn’t drive at the end

Ron also had a lot of home support show up for his recent hurricane response. He hasn’t translated this to national acclaim, like you said his endorsees he flew out to support all flopped and the first time he tried a national stunt he shrunk like a violet at the media interrogations that followed and he backed down from his planing migrants stunt. I think he’s already burned way too many bridges in the middle of the US base with his “anti-woke” stunts.

Quin_Dub · 15-11-2022 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119877480#Comment_119877480

They are definitely over-egging his performance , which I get - They are desperate for what they hope is a meaningful alternative to Trump that can keep the crazies onside , but he really isn't that impressive outside of a very narrow GOP viewpoint.

The most impressive Gubernatorial performance this year by far was Whitmer in Michigan.

Holding her seat and helping secure both levels of the State house for the first time is a very long time is hugely impressive, especially given all the crap that was thrown at her , not least kidnap attempts and death threats.

I expect we might see more of her in the run to 2024