Romanians

Tombo2001

Boards plumbing new depths with this one...."are we all racists now Father"

maninasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849857#Comment_119849857

What's your point?

I think this thread sorts out some misconceptions for a lot of folks.

The broad conclusion was Romanians are mainly a hard working family oriented bunch, lots of good references here.

Tombo2001

This thing of 'we are Central Europeans, not Southern Europeans' is horse manure.

Firstly, there is no line in the sand which divides one group from another.

And second, trying to suggest that you want to be called one and not the other suggests that one is better than they other, which isnt true.

Reminds of back in the day when the residents of Ballymun Road petitioned for the road to be renamed as Glasnevin Road. What a two fingers that was to actual marginalised people living in Ballymun.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849871#Comment_119849871

And second, trying to suggest that you want to be called one and not the other suggests that one is better than they other, which isnt true.

Ah yes, the old moral/cultural equivalance so terribly fashionable over the last few decades. Doesn't really stand up to objective scrutiny though does it? Though it does make things easier because one doesn't have to actually compare and contrast and have to think of differences, negative or positive. Here's an oul question for you: Is the Ireland of 2022 more or less inclusive of different opinions, lifestyles, sexualities, genders, faiths etc compared to the Ireland of 1952? If you say no, then you've either been living in a cave, or are in a state of extreme denial. So unlikely. If you say yes? Congratulations, you've just made a judgement of culture and suggested one is better than the other. Well fancy that.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849851#Comment_119849851

I don't, but bear in mind in order get certain welfare payments in Ireland, you must satisfy HRC , so to assume Roma are turning in droves off the boat and colkecting benefit is wrong.

Through my own occupation, I met three Roma and all are in employment, anecdotal evidence but there ya go.

Cordell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849871#Comment_119849871

And second, trying to suggest that you want to be called one and not the other suggests that one is better than they other, which isnt true.

Assuming that you're Irish, are you ok with being called British or with people not making any difference between Irish and Irish Travelers?

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849924#Comment_119849924

Wha?...I said what exactly....you are congratulating me on what exactly?

Could you start by going back to the school of plain English, and then let us know what your point is.

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119849865#Comment_119849865

Yep, largely a fair comment.

*except for the bit that says one race is entirely superior to another race....😕

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850256#Comment_119850256

When you start to understand it maybe I will.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850293#Comment_119850293

They're not a different "race".

Furze99

Relative helped for a while in a charity shop. Often given the task of tailing Roma women who came in with big black cloaks/ skirts/ coats.

Says it was hard to believe what they'd try to thieve and hide in their clothes. Almost no item too big.

But are these Romanian?

Star Bingo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119850293#Comment_119850293

Is it not plain to see? The strinkingly obvious; the all too apparent

Jackben75

Roma are an ethnic group of circa 12 million, a large population is indeed in Romania however similar if not greater populations are in Spain, France, Turkey, Bulgaria. There are more in the US than anywhere else. They originate from India.

There is only similarities in the name, Roma have been born and live in Romania, so these are Romanian Roma. However it is completely wrong to suggest Romanians are Roma, in fact the Roma community is hated in Romania and they are also associated with serious crime - drug smuggling, murders, arms running, you name it. Same story in Bulgaria and Turkey.

Romania itself originated from the ancient Dacia which was under the Roman empire for a short time who were believed to of aggressively colonized it - there is fierce debate about this but many agree this was the origin of Romania.

mikemac2

Packie Bonner became a God but sorry, Daniel Timofte can hang his head in shame as it was one **** penalty.

Any half decent keeper would have saved it