Garda assaulted

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903266#Comment_119903266

She'll address it in a tweet. The usual.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903327#Comment_119903327

Next to an inspirational message while planting a tree ? 🤐

Jarhead_Tendler

Very frightening that they could do that to two members of An Garda Síochána. Let us hope they are caught and jailed

Mike Murdock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903266#Comment_119903266

Too concerned with getting Twitter likes and making sure her Hurty Word Legislation gets implemented.

Glencarraig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902024#Comment_119902024

Nothing that an issue of tazers wouldnt go a long way to giving back some authority to the Gardai but given how long its taking to give them something as basic as a bodycam I wont hold my breath. What needs to happen when the scum are found guilty that a few of the biggest and hardest Gardai they can find are given 15 minutes with them behind a locked door, thats the only justice the scum understand.

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902734#Comment_119902734

Statistically - if you believe in that then there is no hope.

Alot of crime goes unreported because people know there is fook all follow up.

If your house or car gets broken into tonight and call the Guards about it, you'd be lucky to have a squad car around by daybreak and after that you'll never hear a thing about it again.

It's easy to see how "statistically" we're a safe country when a sizeable amount of crime goes unacted upon.

PokeHerKing

Are the guards trained in unarmed combat? If they're not then they should at the very least have non lethal weapons for protection.

They should also be patrolling in minimum of 4 in areas like Ballyfermot. Maybe a maximum of one female guard per patrol as well.

Sierra Oscar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903435#Comment_119903435

Patrol in a minimum of 4? You're often lucky to have 2 Gardaí available to cover an entire district in a car. In fact I understand there wasn't even that available to respond to this incident in Ballymun with the 2 Gardaí having to respond from a different district. There’s **** all Gardaí available to respond to incidents as the numbers on the regular frontline units have fallen dramatically over the last couple of years.

elperello

From what I have seen of the incident I have come to the conclusion that there is no way I would intervene in that scenario without serious back up.

Therefore I don't expect members of AGS to have to do so on my behalf.

We need urgent changes in how the country is policed.

Danno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903435#Comment_119903435

Maybe a maximum of one female guard per patrol as well.

Wait 'till one of the PC brigade come along and call that sexist and then tells you that gender is a social construct or some waffle like that.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902791#Comment_119902791

Don’t really think so. You’d have had two male Gardai in the same position. Short of using some kind of weapon, they were outnumbered by people who’d zero respect for them or their authority.

Sending two Gardai (or worse one Garda) to deal with a public order incident like that is just ludicrous. They need significant backup to deal with that level of violence.

The notion that some modern Lugs Brannigan could deal with probably coked up violent scumbag types is a bit in the realms of fantasy. It’s not the 1950s anymore.

saabsaab

I remember being shown around a Garda station as a kid. The Sergeant showed me a collection of batons.. well a strong blow from of them to the head and you wouldn't be getting up anytime soon.

SCOOP 64

If these thugs are not deal with harshly Garda recruitment will take a nose dive also many will consider leaving.

Former Former Former

Even if it's blatant trolling, it's disgusting to see people blaming the gardai or garda management.

The problem - and the only problem - is the absolute **** who did this and the wider community in that area who encourage and defend these people.

The "few bad apples" thing just doesn't wash any more.

Unsupervised

We simply require a 0 tolerance approach when it comes to the law. This includes the enforcers and the judicial system.

The Gardai and Defence Forces need to align in relation to Ireland requirements in this area from 2023 and beyond.

There should an administrative unit setup of all office and admin roles and put most of the 14k Gardai out on the street.

Gardai should be travelling around in Vans rather than cars and also provided with the gear to protect themselves.

Ireland does not require The local friendly neighbourhood Garda.

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903713#Comment_119903713

Western Australia Police have been on a recruitment drive for Irish and UK police. Not sure if it's still on but they were not too long back.

Esse85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903718#Comment_119903718

Blame must lie with the government too.

It's often been said that prisons are overrun and there's no space etc. Therefore judges are far more lenient when it comes to sentencing.

Build more prisons, create more space and stop letting these scumbags run riot because of that shortage.

Unsupervised

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903755#Comment_119903755

This is also what I don’t understand.

Why is there a reluctance to be building more prisons.

billyhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903236#Comment_119903236

This is it. Due to gender balance a female Garda has to accompany a male Garda and no disrespect but I know someone who works in the Guards and apart from the odd one most female Garda are next to useless. Even most Gardai nowadays are not intimidating due to size restrictions been done away with. We need Gardai to look like the Transdev security officials who are mostly over 6ft 2 in height and build accordingly. The scrotes than might have second thoughts about assaulting them or giving them lip.

freshpopcorn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903801#Comment_119903801

I'm fairly sure back in the mid 2000's there was talks about a prison being between my town and the neighboring one. There was a massive resstiense against it mainly because if one of them escaped and the people who'd it would bring to the area.

I'd say other areas would be similar.

Also, I saw George Nkencho mentioned in the media Today because his brother wrote a tribute to him on his Birthday but can you remember the reaction to this when a Garda does shot somebody.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901900#Comment_119901900

Defend her comrade, dish out timber.

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903755#Comment_119903755

Honestly, outside of management of the countries finances and attracting FDI (which in turns provides jobs) when you look across the board the Government have pretty much made a mess of every sector. Health, Transport, Housing, Justice just to name a few all in the gutter. Everything that makes a good quality of life for citizens of a society is being incredibly badly managed.

They are blessed we are all so docile.

Witcher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902750#Comment_119902750

Gardai had stab vests well before 2015

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903901#Comment_119903901

Nah, f**K that.

Some toerags beating the sh*t out of a Garda just doing his job don't get a free pass because the traffic is bad and you can't get a hospital appointment.

Every time you deflect and detract from these crimes, it makes them a little bit more acceptable and a little bit more likely to happen again.

No.

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903956#Comment_119903956

No one is deflecting. If there was a properly equipped police force, adequate jail capacity in line with population growth and proper sentencing then it is less likely that what happened last night in Ballyfermot would have happened.

Not having the above in place is what makes it much more likely to happen again much more frequently.

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119903801#Comment_119903801

very little money to be made if the legal professions bread and butter is locked away for long stretches that’s why there will never be a new prison with plenty of room in this country

take everything

These scumbags will probably get less than a year.

I honestly can't see how this, what looked like a bad beating, could merit less than 5-10 years.

Otherwise it just sends a message it's ok to smack the gardai around.

Quitelife

Some free legal Aid solicitor is presently coming up with yarns to justify why the three people in custody attacked the guards last night.

Meanwhile some Judge in his Mansion will leave them off with some micky mouse punishment.

Quitelife

More prisons are needed for the scum taking over our towns and villages laughing at the law abiding.

Esse85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119904092#Comment_119904092

These free legal aid solicitors must send someone in the government a hefty brown envelope, you scratch my back I scratch yours type of agreement.

It would be a lot cheaper in the long run to build more prisons than keep funding these solicitors. There's obviously an economic reason we don't, some people are getting their cake and eating it and don't want that to end.