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British Horological Institute Short Courses - Service and Repair of Automatic Watches

  • 25-11-2022 9:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭


    Hi All,

    Just back from the BHI after completing another course in servicing automatic watches with John Murphy. Here's a link to the post on the first course I did back in February https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058232821/british-horogical-institute-short-courses-service-and-repair-of-manual-wind-watches

    For this course we will be servicing 2 watches in the week, 1 using an ETA 2836 movement and the other a Seiko 5 7S26.

    Starting on Monday morning with the ETA 2836, begin by stripping it ready for the ultrasonic cleaner

    All the parts go into little baskets to go into the ultrasonic cleaner to remove dirt and old oils

    On Tuesday, once the parts are out of the cleaner, it's time to inspect each part for wear, damage and to oil each part with the correct lubricant. The case was also tested for water resistant using the same dry tester I use in Bremont


    Unfortunately as I was refitting the main spring, the fish tail ends broke so a new main spring was fitted to the barrel

    Wednesday continued on with the rebuild

    Lubricating the rotor required putting it in a staking set to allow it to spin to help the lubricant spread. We used a lubricant called lubeta (short for lubricant for ETA watches) V105. Here's some of the other lubricants and greases we used


    After the watch is reassembled it goes on a winder to test the automatic winding


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭IrishPlayer


    On Thursday we got to start on the Seiko, which as you all know I have a soft spot for and much preferred working on then the ETA. Seiko used inspiration from old English watches to design the movement

    Same process as before, stripping it ready for cleaning


    By the end of Thursday, we had it back up and ticking away


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭IrishPlayer


    On Friday, we finished off building the Seiko back together


    Both of them back together and most importantly, working!


    To finish off the day, we got to have a look at a ladies watch movement of a similar caliber to the ETA




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭IrishPlayer


    This week went in even faster than last time, one person dropped out at the last minute so there were only 5 of us on the course this week. It was great in the evening meeting up at the Cross Keys pub to chat watches and enjoy some tasty meals!

    Charlie to keep us company

    John told us some ghost stories which kept us entertained and careful at night! Here's where I was spending the night

    For anyone interested to learn more about these ghosts, here's a bit of history of Upton Hall https://bhi.co.uk/about-us/upton/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Fascinating thread I.P. If I had the time I would so love to something similar. Mind you I doubt I'd be much use as I've noticed a bit of a tremor in my hands the last couple yrs.

    What part of the course have you found the most technically challenging?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭IrishPlayer


    On a lunch break I had a look through the Seiko Technical guide and found some interesting bits regarding my Bell Matic

    Note the early style case with the notch and the early Diashock dial.

    I could spend a week alone talking about lubricants so this is just an idea of what is involved in servicing a watch. Loads of time and practice is what is needed.


    I had a fantastic week at the BHI, great group, one guy I had actually done the course in February with and we keep in contact with since.


    Me with the tutor John Murphy

    A Joy to learn from, great guy and who was my main inspiration for deciding to perse my watchmaking journey to move to the UK.

    Another certificate to add to the wall!

    Also gifted with a nice eye glass


    Just wanted to say a huge thanks to John Murphy for the great course, along with all the great people that I enjoyed meeting. Highly recommend doing the courses for anyone interested in experiencing what it is like to work on watches before going out and buying loads of tools, at the very minimum, enjoy great food and banter!

    Also want to thank everyone on here for the continued support and looking forward to seeing what is next in this journey!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    @IrishPlayer , as always thanks a million for the post. I love the exuberance and joy that your posts and photo-essay are always accompanied with. Really do feel like I get to live a little vicariously through you and your journey into watchmaking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭patspost


    Great thread, Thank you for sharing your experience with us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    Brilliant thread… keep them coming

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    +1 to the general sentiments here.

    Great, evocative posts that bring you there.

    Keep it up.



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