Can Gardai leave the force & transfer/transition to Civil Service into other roles?

sham09

Is it possible for Gardai to leave their role as Police Officers & transfer to different parts of the Civil Service (eg. Revenue) into a non-policing role let's say an Admin or ICT role?

Would they be able to transfer their years of service over to Revenue so they keep some form of their pension?

EO2019

They couldn’t transfer to the civil service they would have to move by applying for an open competition.

Re the pension this what the GRA say “Service of members transferring from other Public Service positions to the Garda Siochana or vice versa is reckonable for pension purposes. In the case of such transfer three quarters of previous service is reckonable for pension purposes except in the case of transfer between Garda Siochana and Prison Service where special provisions apply because of the thirty-year service required for pension purposes. Members retiring at 60 years of age will benefit from any general pay increase which falls due within three months of date of retirement.”

Larbre34

Transfer? No.

They'd go into open competitions on the strength of their education and relevant experience like anyone else.

I've seen former Gardaí become housing welfare officers, case investigators in consumer and business supervision, security advisors, drivers, loads of things really. But in all cases they had to go after the roles competitively.

hardybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058274422/can-gardai-leave-the-force-transfer-transition-to-civil-service-into-other-roles

They aren't civil servants and therefore can't transfer into it.

As another poster mentioned, they can go for open competitions like anyone else.

They might also be able to do a temporary secondment somewhere else in the public sector.

In terms of pension, they're on a fast accrual pension specific to the Garda role. They'd stop paying into that and transfer to another scheme when leaving elsewhere.

Lemon Davis lll

There's plenty of guards on light duties long term or who have somehow managed to embed themselves in behind a desk, essentialy undertaking clerical / civil service work for two or three times the salary.

I understand it to a degree, when you have your kids, all of a sudden getting spat at down the town at 03:30am isn't an appealing prospect. The problem is though, you've joined the guards to be a guard and if you then want to shift to clerical work you should see your salary, allowances and sworn member status change accordingly.

Drew Harris has talked quite a bit about pulling more members out onto the street and away from desk based roles, but there remains a sizeable cohort of guards who use every possible excuse to avoid doing the job they should rightly be expected to do.