The Traitors

JP Liz V1

Was it Zack or Jaz that was going to be recruited?

Diane was first I believe to suspect Ash, nominate her

It's a shame she is gone as she was getting suss on Paul with Ross on Harry also, him recruited might be interesting, Diane's son now a traitor, sabotage revenge from the inside

Necro

Roundtable is fantastic viewing when everyone speaks their mind like last night. Half the time though one person makes an accusation and everyone else piles on board cos they don't seem to have their own minds. Maybe it's nerves or whatever but at least speak up! Have been binging on the Australian one recently before we tackle the US Version and in fairness, the Faithful here may seem bad but they are definitely, certainly not the worst bunch I've seen😂 Australia Season 2 I'm looking at you!

This is it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121633290#Comment_121633290

Anywhere to easily watch Australian and US version?

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121633290#Comment_121633290

I think it's always harder in the first few episodes because there are about 20 of them around the table, don't really know each other and usually have very little to go on, so most people won't speak up and will just go with the flow. Once it gets down to about 12 or so people, the roundtable becomes really tense as most people really start going in on each other.

HildaOgdenx

Yes, and they can get a better look at each other, and at each other's behaviour when the numbers dwindle a bit, I guess.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121633338#Comment_121633338

Not easily in Ireland no... I think if you have a VPN the US version is available on the BBC iPlayer though.

Meauldsegosha

I see media reports today that RTE are looking at doing a version. Not sure if they will be able to do it justice.

Lefty2Guns

I want Harry to win it now. Paul is too smug and cocky.

It's getting interesting now and can't wait for it later.

It wrecked my head last night when they all went to Paul and hugged him, telling him they now know he isn't a traitor. Idiots.

archfi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121634033#Comment_121634033

Uh-oh

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121634033#Comment_121634033

They could rename it "The Cute Hoors"

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121634033#Comment_121634033

Probably not as they'll get someone like Baz to host it😂

taratee

That was sensational stuff last night. Miles was toast before the round table but he put up a good fight. Paul managed the situation pretty well to be fair to him. The faithful are still all over the place. Hope Paul and Harry recruit someone like Andrew. A patsy that'll help them get to the final.

MacDanger

Harry is in pole position but I think he might be overplaying his hand a little by saying "do you think it was two traitors up against each other tonight" and that could come back to bite him in the end. Paul will have earned a lot of kudos from last night so maybe that's why he felt he had to make that move

Jaz is playing very strangely, giving Evie the black rose in the task (once Diane wasn't the answer the Q3, it 100% had to be Evie) and then voting for Andrew. His forthright backing of Miles during the vote though might work in his favour as it's unlikely a traitor would back a fellow traitor in that situation

HildaOgdenx

The presenter is important, imo.

I'm trying to think who would be good if there was an Irish version.

Not any of the usual ones anyway.

taratee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121634917#Comment_121634917

Thinking the same. Paul has "proven" that he is faithful on more than one occasion and he was key to finding Miles last night. Harry has just floated along. He hasn't said anything of note at the round table. These little one to one comments could surface and he could end up in bother. I'm not convinced that he has the ability to work his way out of that position.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635002#Comment_121635002

Agreed definitely the most important role. Which is why I have zero faith in RTE to pick correctly😂

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635341#Comment_121635341

Paul always surviving a murder despite being popular, vocal and influential which Zack has brought up, expecially him surviving over Meg needs revisiting if he is to be caught out

It's a ratings winner for BBC both shows, uncloaked on BBC2

I wanna see the reactions to Paul being outed as a traitor at a roundtable banishment if some grew a few balls voting him, come on Jaz, come on Evie, as it stands Paul is driving the game play

How about Diane hosting the Irish version

Hippodrome Song Owl

Absolutely loving this show - how did I not hear of it last year??

Diane is a big loss. The burial was fantastic tv though.

I've thought from the start that Harry is the real threat. Paul definitely underestimates him.

I would love to see Ross recruited now and take revenge from the inside.

Zack is the only Faithful with any real cop on now.

I can't think of anyone who could do Claudia's role justice in an Irish version. I fear RTE would go for James Patrice and it would be a disaster.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635002#Comment_121635002

Get Diane as Presenter

This is it

Here we go!!!

This is it

Andrew isn't as stupid as they thought! Knows well they'll throw him under the bus

Mam of 4

Am sitting here watching this and laughing away to myself 🤣 This will be an excellent round table I think, lets hope Paul gets a shock , fingers crossed 🤞

This is it

Come on Harry!

Mam of 4

Pot stirred brilliantly, well done Harry. Now follow through Faithfuls!

Mam of 4

Woohoo 🙌🙌🙌

This is it

"Harry, that was you!"

Deadly

Mam of 4

Claudia is a fantastic presenter, how she doesn't crack up laughing is beyond me.

JP Liz V1

The traitors are doing the work for the faithfuls, instigating it off but oh my delighted, Harry out played Paul who thought he was master, I was worried for Jaz

Basq

Had a feeling they'd pick Andrew.. but jesus, he's bloody terrible!

The decision to murder means I'd say they're going to be planting seeds about each other.. well, Andrew will need to start being more aggressive.

BorneTobyWilde

https://youtu.be/rY0WxgSXdEE?feature=shared&t=139

Finally kicked his ass to the curb , good riddance to Paul, he thought he was the master

archfi

Well, well, well.

Paul's been done in.

I will say though, Harry was way to specific when he was detailing the dungeon episode he literally repeated the Traitor's plan word for word but the failthfuls are so thick I think he might just be safe for at least another episode or two.

Jaz, despite knowing Harry ran to Paul about Jaz's Paul suspicions (ie Harry showing big Traitor behaviour) was a bit OTT with his praise of Harry though I guess that's down to finally getting Paul out and Harry's pivotal role in that.

Zack was unbelievably stupid when he decided to have a go at Jaz during the roundtable. I honestly thought that was Jaz gone when Zack led the way with pointing at Jaz (joined by Ross, Andrew, Charlotte and Paul) in the middle of Paul's roundtable demise. I mean, that's not the first time he's led strongly then pointlessly aimed at someone other than the target.

Charlotte's a bit of an exaggerator, her 'fight' with Zack, her previous lying about what Zack said in episode two or three and tonight's exaggeration/lie to Harry about Paul pointing the finger at Harry. But it helped with outing Paul - I think maybe that's the way she is in real life too.

I'd guess Charlie, Ross or Jaz are next on the block.

Ross is as bad, if not worse than his mammy at this game - he'll probably make the final!

PS I saw Paul on BBC2's not-so-great Uncloaked show tonight and he came across well, a bit of a wannabe TV zlister but perfectly pleasant man, but I'd say undeserving of the pure hatred some show him online!

Hippodrome Song Owl

So glad Paul is gone. Such a fool. Even in his exit recording, saying Harry had learned from him - he just cannot see that Harry was always the clever one.

Panthro

Aw I'm so glad Paul's gone though. Even his interview bit at the end saying Harry's learned from him. Harry's been Paul's puppet master!

Jaz's only real arrow in his quiver is challenging Harry on why Harry fed back to Paul something Jaz said to Harry in confidence. He probably won't go against Harry though.

Said it before, Harry's a stone cold baller!

Feel bad for Andrew, his integrity will be his undoing.

fritzelly

Dont know what happened to my post earlier about last nights episode - was saying what a great episode but Paul is not long for this show and Harry will throw him under the bus if he makes one false move, the faithfulls are still useless AF - Miles was barely short of saying he was a traitor and people still thought he was a faithful. Harry is gonna win this I think

Then tonight's episode I just watched and I laughed along with Harry

This show has definitely got better with the second half

Sono

Harry went into way too much detail this evening about Paul, if any of the faithfuls had any sort of cop on they’d twig that he knows way too much and is a traitor, instead he looks untouchable.

I wouldn’t rule out Andrew double crossing Harry and throwing him under the bus, he’s clearly uncomfortable as a traitor. He has seen Harry shaft 2 traitors already so it’s inevitable he will shaft him too, kill or be killed kinda thing.

I am just glad Paul is gone, he was sickening to watch.

JP Liz V1

Harry bussed on Paul the same way Paul did to Miles, maybe others will pick up on that, I think Ross even though was wrong on Paul is the only one with an ounce of suss on Harry who is playing a blinder but imagine if Andrew got him out

I was surprised at Charlotte's turn on Paul as she was 100% loyal to Paul

It ends next week yes?

What a series, this game, Oh My

I enjoyed Ross little wink to camera about mother Diane, I may have a wee crush

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637220#Comment_121637220

Andrew is not liked enough to go against Harry, would backfire on him but agree glad Paul is gone, too cocky for his own good and really useless at the round table (which was extremely long tonight I thought) every time he's been challenged

JP Liz V1

I fear Jaz will be banished next but he deserves credit as the first one suss on Paul plus he voted Andrew before he was a traitor convert 😁 he was the psychic

The traitors are playing the game for the faithfuls

Necro

Jaz almost rescued Paul with his performance at the roundtable. Never rule out the ability of someone to put both feet in their own mouth mid discussion in this game.

Paul's demise was excellent tv but like others have said Harry was way too specific in his attack on him, particularly mentioning the dungeon as a "cock up". Andrew is definitely really uncomfortable with the role, I think he accepted it to stay in the game but that's about it. Don't think he has the temerity or smarts to shaft Harry either he would just get pulled under the bus himself in the aftermath.

505_

Ross should be banished next just on the grounds of being the worst faithful. I think his track record includes a leading role in banishing several faithfuls and defending multiple traitors. I’m not sure how his voice held so much sway particularly early on. He hasn’t had a clue throughout. An asset to traitors for sure.

Sono

Yeah I agree about Andrew, he may take one for the faithfuls and sacrifice himself in trying to out Harry.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121636743#Comment_121636743

I heard an interview with Claudia where she was saying how at one of the roundtables last year, when one of the Traitors turned on another at the roundtable, a producer said in Claudia's ear (through the earpiece) to try and control her breathing, because the traitors turning on each other caused Claudia to start breathing a bit heavier.

Must be one hell of a tough role in fairness. She knows who the traitors are etc but has to try to never give anything away, even during missions. Another reason why I wouldn't trust RTE to pick from their usual stable of excitable puppy presenters. Even Alan Cumming who presents the US version is a lot more theatrical in his role than Claudia, but completely stoneyfaced when he needs to be.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637518#Comment_121637518

He should have been banished after he railroaded Jonny for no reason other than gut feels tbh. Faithful are probably going to take out a few of their own now before the crosshairs even slightly point to Harry. Ross and Jazz both on very shaky ground.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637561#Comment_121637561

I wonder is your man Roger from the Aussie version available now the AU one is cancelled, I find him a decent host too. Doubt they'd have the funds to get Claudia herself plus BBC likely wouldn't allow it.

This is it

As others have said, Harry's level of detail when outing Paul could be his downfall, if they're clever enough to twig it.

Jaz and Ross could be in trouble tonight. Probably Zak murdered...?

Penn

Harry played it to perfection last night. Paul's head was on the chopping block far too often and there was always going to be a big question mark over him for most people, especially as the numbers dwindled down. Harry just capitalised on what was going to happen anyway and led the charge against Paul.

My big concern for Harry is actually going to be ego. I think he could start soaring too close to the sun, and his waxy wings may melt. Maybe not until the final, but I think he could slip up easily enough if he starts to feel untouchable. Probably also won't help that his fellow Traitor Andrew is playing it as cool as Del Boy falling through the bar.

I really like Jaz but he does himself absolutely no favours at the roundtable. Same with how Anthony was really smart and calculating and could have been a huge asset, but he went far too aggressive as soon as his name was mentioned and then people didn't trust him.

Penn

https://twitter.com/DeanWilliam/status/1748092355989659890?s=20

It is funny how Charlotte keeps wondering why the Traitors haven't killed her even though she's a threat, and even during the funeral presumed she was the one they'd murdered, meanwhile the Traitors almost never mention her or anything she talks about. She's still in the game because she's completely middle of the road; not weak enough to murder because she'll never be banished, and not strong enough that they need to get rid of her because she's a danger to them.

Trigger Happy

Yeah, Charlotte is slightly too bland to get much attention yet. Her cleavage deserves a show of it's own.

Evie and Charlie and Mollie are so vanilla though. You would keep forgetting they are in the show.

Hopefully the only characters that make it to the final are the strong ones...not the quiet ones who get their by default!

MacDanger

Poor decision by Harry last night imo, he could have let the banishment take its course and likely kill a faithful rather pushing to kill off Paul. I think there was enough suspicions around Paul that Harry could have offed him pretty easily later on

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637731#Comment_121637731

That's kind of what happened last year though.

Spoiler Warning

Meryl may as well not have even been there for all the help she was at finding Traitors or coming up with theories, Hannah was okay but could be very easily swayed and based her votes on people's personailities rather than any real logic, and Aaron mostly made it through the last few episodes just by virtue of the fact that the person he was closest aligned with was the bigger target.

People get accused of being a Traitor for not speaking up. People get accused of being a Traitor for speaking up too much and therefore trying to deflect/scheme. People get accused of being a Traitor for not voting with the other Faithfuls even when they're wrong. People get accused of being a Traitor for always voting with other Faithfuls.

But yeah, it's only the last two episodes where I'm beginning to recognise who's who out of Evie, Charlie and Mollie.