So is 'war porn' a thing now?

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060459#Comment_120060459

The funhouse hall of mirrors that is the moral world of Jequ0n. Where pederasts and low-life pimps like Andrew Tate deserve the benefit of the doubt, and we should all be saying a decade of the rosary for Russian war criminals who come a cropper in Ukraine.

Spare us your cries of hypocrisy, no one is really interested, and it's terribly, terribly boring.

EdHoven

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120019082#Comment_120019082

I remember the Vietnam War. It was on the news every night with film footage and reporters on the spot. I don't think we are getting the same depth of coverage now. The Falklands seemed like the first attempt to keep the lid on reporting. In this conflict there is fountain of deceit on both sides. I don't believe 95% of what we are hearing.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060473#Comment_120060473

Sorry, didn’t mean to trigger you there my dear. Don’t forget to polish your halo and enjoy your videos.

ocallagh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120048721#Comment_120048721

Had to reset my password to login and say excellent post. I am not pro Russian, in fact I am not pro anyone. We're all the same, all potential horrible scumbags. Money, Power, Greed, Governments manipulate the masses. What chance does a young Russian man have, generations of propaganda, corruption, miseducation, oppression, poverty, and being forced off to war and shot in the back if they don't comply? I am not excusing any actions here, but the hypocrisy is very irritating. The vast majority of us would do the exact same under the same circumstances. None of this is pretty. Cheering on the gore is no exception.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060504#Comment_120060504

Ah Jeq, don't try to come off all Cool Hand Luke on us at this stage of your boards career. We know what gets you all shirty, and it's plain as a borscht your buttons have been pushed for today.

I've never tried on a halo for size. I'm one of those people who are completely unmoved when I hear of a bushel of Russian soldiers meeting their maker under a hail of artillery - they had it coming, and that's the ancient laws of war. Does that sound like someone looking for a fast-track to sainthood to you?

It's called having convictions on a matter, and you get befuddled and upset with people when they have them. You have one gear: trying to make out you have some higher understanding of nature and making you have some sort of edgy ethical framework by consistantly detatched.

You remind me of the clownish nihilists in the Big Lebowski who were there for comic relief. Except they provided a degree of entertainment and if they were actually people, you wouldn't want to be seated next to them at a wedding dinner (or listen to their interminable sh*te on a forum day after day). "Vee belief in nathing Lebowski"

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060554#Comment_120060554

Fair enough. I had read your posts in a celebratory manner when it came to the wood-chipper bits etc but being indifferent makes sense to me. I’ll take back the halo comment then.

And of course I have a higher understanding. At least I am not fooling myself into believing that I am doing an honourable thing by indulging in something that I enjoy watching. But here we have a seemingly endless supply of people justifying why they are doing “the right thing”.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060631#Comment_120060631

We get it, we get it Jequ0n, there is no such thing as "the right thing". Everything is equal to everything else, we're all just animals with violence in our hearts and we don't want to admit it.

F*cking hell, reading your posts is like dealing with a teenager who's read Catcher in the Rye for the first time. That or someone doing a bad Hannibal Lector impression.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060547#Comment_120060547

To be quite frank, Russians have been eager consumers of nationalistic exceptionalism for a very long time. It's woven through their national character from the imperial era and got worse in the Soviet era when they were the dominant ethnie.

They looked at their shoelaces and said nothing when journalist after journalist was murdered by the state that tried to deliver them the truth of the country they were living in. Stood aside when opposition voices were being murdered at home and abroad - and they were all fully aware of it. Russians don't have the Chinese firewall to contend with, they had access to all the information they needed but chose to ignore it.

If the scales didn't fall from their eyes in 2014, they never will.

A young Russian man now has three choices:

• Accept they are now a full-blooded fascist nation, kiss their mother goodbye and march off to their death or mutilation in Ukraine
• Get the hell out of the country and hide in Istanbul or Tblisi, or...
• Pull their country out of a complete moral collapse and overturn the government

Ignorance is not an excuse any more.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060680#Comment_120060680

Ignore me then, instead of resorting to your usual insults.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060487#Comment_120060487

If you lived in America maybe but I don't think it was the topic of every Irish tv news broadcast at the time ,

Open to correction

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060378#Comment_120060378

Yea. One side happens to be invaders. Murdering, stealing and raping invaders. Less of these is a good thing.

Don’t hide behind some spectrum - I don’t know anyone not severely mentally inhibited that doesn’t know right from wrong.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120061006#Comment_120061006

I never claimed not to know right from wrong. Stop making up things that were never said, it’s getting ridiculous.

Or learn how to read properly, which might also be a good starting point.

animalinside

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120019139#Comment_120019139

Because someone told you that's how you should feel.

It's nothing but an excuse.

You know nothing about the conflict.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062598#Comment_120062598

Who told you that someone told them what to feel ....??

ocallagh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120060784#Comment_120060784

I don't disagree with your points. It is truly awful what Russia are doing and the country is completely fu*ked up now. It will take generations to resolve this.

Sadly though, this war is just like hundreds that have been gone before. We are all capable of this and history has proven it many times over. Out of respect for Ukraine I think I'll just leave it at that.

However, back on topic, taking pleasure in seeing humans torn apart is wrong.

gormdubhgorm

As another poster said. It probably started with Vietnam and the media saturation of it embeded media colour tv etc.

As a young fella I remember fellas who found it fascinating/morbid curiosity to look up sites to see people who were beheaded live by extremists muslims. It sickened me, I remember saying why would anyone want to watch that!?

As for the Ukraine war itself I always find the coverage on SKY NEWS almost as if it is two lads discussing a sports match. Using all these war euphemisms to avoid describing death/destruction and go on about strategy/tactics. That is just as bad as the gore and guts only the other extreme it seems very sanitised. The human race can be odd.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120062966#Comment_120062966

Your description of the coverage on sky news reminded me of this clip from years ago from a comedy show, although it was made years ago. I guess some things never change, especially the way some media outlets like to glorify war and violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3BO6GP9NMY