Aldi "Silverside Ham" - oven only cooking

podgeandrodge

So I have a Silverside Ham - for oven cooking as per pic.

Just wondering -

1. why does this ham not need the boiling in advance
2. Why do the instructions state "do not reheat" ????
3. Is "ham" already cooked (I read this somewhere) and you are just re-heating.

Given above questions, you can wish me well in cooking dinner today!

the beer revolu

Too late for you now, but it's not clear whether that ham is cooked or not.

A ham joint usually would come uncooked and ham can be roast or boiled or a combination of both.

You should be able to tell by the ham whether it is cooked or not - it should be pretty obvious.

kirk.

It's not cooked as it needs oven for 90 minutes

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034304#Comment_120034304

It's possible that is merely reheating a cooked joint. I don't know without seeing it.

I know M&S do cooked turkey joints that you heat in the oven. Perhaps this is something similar?

kirk.

Not for 90 minutes , that's cooking

Alonzo Mosley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058276944/aldi-silverside-ham-oven-only-cooking

How did the dinner go ???😀

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034346#Comment_120034346

Perhaps. But that cooked turkey joint I mentioned recommends 20 minutes per 500g to serve. That could be argued as cooking, too, but it isn't.

As I said, I don't know but your assertion does not change that.

Looking at Aldi UK, they definitely sell cooked ham joints that have heating instructions similar to the OP's. (can't find much info on Ireland) They also sell uncooked joints, too of course, but under a different department.

Perhaps the op will tell us for sure and if you are right you can crow about it.

dickdasr1234

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034410#Comment_120034410

You're a pernickety **** twit! 90 minutes is cooking. Full. Stop.

the beer revolu

I'll just leave these pics here.

Note the reheating instructions and the cooked meat department listing.

What I am suggesting, certainly does exist but I make no definitive claim about the OP's joint as I just don't know.

It's interesting how annoyed people are appearing to be getting on this, complete with personal insults.

What would I know about cooking and reheating, anyway 🤔

Personally, if I had made absolute ascertions about this and I was wrong, I'd be rather embarrassed.

kirk.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034410#Comment_120034410

I would agree with you generally anyhow

I would read instructions and use my judgement also

podgeandrodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034283#Comment_120034283

So this is what was confusing me - I am pretty sure it wasn't cooked, as it was slimy and not cooked looking out of the package - but I had read (see e.g. from Jamie Oliver below) that "hams" come pre-cooked. Again, looking at it, it didn't have the texture of cooked ham at all, so I'm pretty sure not, though I have seen cooked meats as per 'the beer revolu's post now that he mentions it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034355#Comment_120034355

It went well! The ham was absolutely gorgeous after 90 mins and a bit of basting during the cooking. Turkey crown was nice too and easier to do in circa. 110 minutes than a full turkey.

So, anyway, thanks for the responses, and please, conflicting opinions and possibilities are good for debate! There was no mention of "cooked" or "uncooked" on the packaging.

Regardless, I'm still very confused about ""do not reheat" - but plan to ignore that obviously today!

MarkR

It's been cooked and then vacuum sealed. You're reheating it for 90 minutes for the main meal. That's why it says you can eat it cold, and not to reheat.

podgeandrodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034558#Comment_120034558

Mark, can you clarify which piece you are talking about - mine (OP) does not state cooked, but does state 90 minutes. The cooked meat posted states cooked, but does not state 90 minutes.

the beer revolu

I'm inclined to think that the OP's one was not in fact cooked as the instructions say to "cook" for 90 minutes whereas the UK aldi one I posted says to "heat" for 1 hour and 20 minutes.

Either way, both types exist.

MarkR

Sorry, meant the other one with marmalade. Your one said to cook and not reheat. The site also mentioned the handling of raw meat.

So yours isn't cooked.

the beer revolu

I'm pretty sure I've never been called a "fukctwit" before 🤣.

podgeandrodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034806#Comment_120034806

So I can't reheat?

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034933#Comment_120034933

Afraid food safety requests or advice are forbidden here.

Perhaps the best advice would be to follow the packet instructions. Cold Christmas ham ftw 😁

MarkR

Yeah, I'd be reading the instructions and following them exactly. Unless you want the poops!

Marcusm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034434#Comment_120034434

90 mins at 170 would probably be needed to heat a pre-cooked ham to an acceptable temperature.

noodler

For years, the turkey leftovers and ham leftovers have been left (uncut remains) in our oven, not even fridge, and we have eaten them as is or slightly heated in the micro.

It's not something I'd ever do with any other food but have never gotten sick from it.

I try not to think about it truth be told.

dickdasr1234

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120036861#Comment_120036861

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120036861#Comment_120036861

Which is cooking!

Please note M&S COOKING instructions for its PRE-COOKED turkey!

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Marcusm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120036983#Comment_120036983

What is dead may never die and what is already cooked can’t be cooked again! It is reheating cooked food. And if you’re tempted to reply, please do not use any of your horrendous language with me.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120036861#Comment_120036861

Of course it would, or something close to it. I've posted instructions from Aldi UK for reheating a cooked ham and they suggest 80 minutes at 170 but it would obviously depend on the size.

What a certain charming person fails to understand is that to bring a large piece of meat up to temperature will take more or less as long as it takes to cook it.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120034434#Comment_120034434

And right now we all know exactly what you are. Why did you feel the need to put it on display?

awec

On the OPs first question, ham's don't need to be boiled and can just go straight into the oven (and are, IMO, far better this way).

I think the boiling comes from how hams used to be sold, incredibly salty and a need to skim the impurities. I think you even had to pre-soak them back in the day.

I don't believe it's the case any more.

Odelay

I never knew ham could be so exciting.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120038381#Comment_120038381

It's quite the ride, isn't it 😁

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120038175#Comment_120038175

Indeed, hams are a lot less salty then they were. I never soak a ham if boiling it but I would consider soaking it if I was going to roast it.

But, even 20 years ago, bacon/ham really did require soaking to not be really salty.

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120038175#Comment_120038175

My wife normally boils a ham before roasting. There are still plenty of very salty hams being sold. The texture of the ham is much better in most cases when boiled then roasted.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120038846#Comment_120038846

Usually, the roasting part is just for the glaze effect, as far as I am concerned.

But like many things, there are many ways of doing it and people have their preferences.

I've just boiled ham, I usually boil and then fairly briefly roast/glaze and I've also roast from the start. They are all good. It's hard enough to fcuk up 😁