TAMS

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122011378#Comment_122011378

Was it for LESS equipment?

V6400

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122026874#Comment_122026874

yea for LESS, submitted the claim as soon as it was open to do it thinking I’d get paid fairly quick. Probably should have known better.

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122029335#Comment_122029335

I'm only waiting for approval to be able to buy the tanker,haven't looked for payment yet

topaha

Hi,

Does anyone know the requirements for the proposed 70% grant aid for new slurry storage being made available to slurry importers? Does there have to be proof of some sort of contract for it in place? (The department will have records anyway). Does it have to be continuous over the past number of years? Or if there was a break (say for 1 yr) in the timeline of importing could that disqualify you?

No substantial info jumping out from what i can see.

T

V6400

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122029752#Comment_122029752

you can buy away once you’ve applied, all eligible applications will be approved.

V6400

Anyone know what type of aerators are covered by tams? Is it just the spike type aerator or does it cover a subsoiler type aerator?

Bass Reeves

Anyone know if you can purchase TAMS equipment in NI and use receipts for TAMS

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084798#Comment_122084798

Can be done, but make sure the boxes are ticked. Would be worth while checking it out with DAFM

sandman30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084798#Comment_122084798

As far as I know you can, but the invoice has to be in euros not sterling

HHH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084798#Comment_122084798

What are you in the market for?

I have approval for a leg hoist, head scoop and weigh scales. I'm wondering where is the best place to buy all three?

SodiumCooled

Just to confirm it’s 37N concrete required for slatted tanks, laybacks etc. What sort of a price is it per metre at the moment does anyone know.

Will make a few phones calls tomorrow but just got a quote through which all materials are being included (for the tanks etc) and previous quotes were labour only so need to price concrete to compare. I know still included too but that’s harder to price without a list.

mr.stonewall

Has to be either mix a or mix b on the dockets for tams jobs. Both are 37n and 45n with the max chip of 20mm

SodiumCooled

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122091432#Comment_122091432

Thanks, should be mix b then which is 37N. Info I see there looking it up says mix a (45N) is for silage slabs, silage pit walls etc.

mr.stonewall

Mix a is for areas in contact with silage effluent

dmakc

Both the concrete suppliers and concrete worksman should be on top of TAMS requirements too

lmk123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122091389#Comment_122091389

Ya it’s 37N, it’ll be different everywhere depending on demand and if Roadstone have it all to themselves in the area or not. Around me the mix for tanks ranges from €125 - €142 / M plus vat

RobinBanks

Hi folks. Does anyone know if the clipex head or condon warrior gate is covered by tams 3 grant. Is it classed as a semi automatic gate?

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122107421#Comment_122107421

Headgate no problem what so ever. Would you consider the mobile crush with the squeeze and scales. On a side note I dehorned suckler calves in one on Saturday

irishguy19772

Sorry for the ignorance here. We have a small farm with around 21 animals. We have 2 crushes that have seen better days and very old style head gates.

Would we be eligible for a tams grant for safety equipment (am I correct in assuming 60% is paid back if approved). Does this also mean I would have to get someone approved to design the new crush and buy approved materials?

Anyone ever done this and rough costs involved?

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110089#Comment_122110089

Yes, you would be eligible for the 60% grant for safety equipment.

No, you don’t need anyone approved to design the crush, you can do it yourself as long as you stick to the tams specifications. Document S.137 is the specifications for handling facilities.

Yes, you have to buy approved materials which must meet the specs from S.137.

Bear in mind though that there are reference costs for everything with tams and this is the max you will get grant aided on for any item.

As an example, the reference cost for a mobile crush is €2,272. 60% on this is €1,363 in grant aid to you. However you could pay €10,000 if you like for a mobile crush with all the bells and whistles but you’ll still only get €1,363 in grant aid so it’s not as simple as just spending what you like and they give you 60% back.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110433#Comment_122110433

for the mobile crush is that 2272+vat. You cannot claim the vat back so it is grant aid of 1363 on a total out lay of 2794.56 inc vat at 23%

RobinBanks

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122107999#Comment_122107999

I would. I have applied for both grants but in terms of priorities there is a few other things that need to get done this year. Replacing slats, some reseeding and a few other bits. I dont think I will be able to stretch for the full crush but at a minimum i need a good head gate with a scoop for safety reasons.

Have you the mobile crush? any feedback on makes / models?

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110801#Comment_122110801

Did a job a few years ago and like the look of the condon style mobile crush. Designed the job around it and made it a lifetime job. The morris style head gate is super for cattle flow and squeeze on the crush is just fantastic with suckler stock. With all the weighting schemes it has been well paid. Like the posters said above it will be over the the reference cost for scales and a mobile crush, but it really pays in safety and speed of working beef stock. A simple thing of sheeting on the bottom doors is great to mind the feet. Taking time to design it with cattle flow is key, no one piece of investment in handling will save time, it's he collective of lots of little things in the design that when really efficiency is got. Look at the the jobs that you are doing, like the forcing pen, safe working zone, a work area, drafting, area for loading cattle into a trailer, lighting, and even cleaning. Designing it around existing pens in the sheds or yards can help. Imagine at the herd test having all cattle in the yard and sheds and it's only a matter of moving them.

If you do consider it really drives down the cost of the scales as most are designed for weight bars under them. Any time I want to weight it's only bring out the clock and connect it. Cattle are so used to going over it it you weight stock quick. I always weight stock before going to the factory and will run the whole bunch over the scales and draft off the ones I want. I have a good handle on thrive of the remainder then.

Other makes out there are the te pari, Bateman, and the clipex. Condons was the cheaper and sufficient for nearly all Irish farmers, bar a feedlot.

Would agree on slats first and grazing infrastructure next followed by handling. Feel free to drop a DM

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110433#Comment_122110433

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110801#Comment_122110801

The option of a scales can be added in to drive the cost down if you don't have one already.

Correct on the vat and the tams grant aid, but for most farmers something like this is a lifetime investment in their own and staff safety. Anyone doing a new handling yard should really take time to weight up the options longterm

weatherbyfoxer

Finally received the approval letter today for my TAM's LESS application I applied for on the 12th of December

weatherbyfoxer

When putting in the invoice for a claim on a slurry tanker with trailing shoe do you need the costing of both on the invoice or will just the total price paid do?

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122132196#Comment_122132196

AFAIK items that are granted aided separately have to be costed individually

weatherbyfoxer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122132219#Comment_122132219

Yea I thought so,just need to make sure the garage has the amounts right on the two items on the invoice to make sure neither go over approved costings

razor8

Probably a silly question, but i see theirs a Tams grant for a manure pit but none for a dungstead.

what exactly is the difference??

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122164715#Comment_122164715

And accelerated capital allowances on it aswell