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Nationwide deer & goat cull called for

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yep, too many, they destroy native woodland, stay in the same place until everything is eaten.

    Time to bring back the Lynx !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭BSA International


    I still like the Africa one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭kunekunesika


    The phoenix park is a big petting zoo, not relevant to the discussion 😂. As for the goats? Where are all the goats?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    Some of the mountains in Kerry are riddled with them.

    Never forget, the end goal is zero firearms of any type.

    S.I. No. 187/1972 - Firearms (Temporary Custody) Order - Firearms seized

    S.I. No. 21/2008 - Firearms (Restricted Firearms and Ammunition) Order 2008 - Firearm types restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2009 - Firearms banned & grandfathered

    S.I. No. 420/2019 - Magazine ban, ammo storage & transport restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2023 - 2023 Firearm Ban (retroactive to 8 years prior)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Zxthinger


    We have the clear.. the green don’t have hunter’s interest at heart..

    Id suspect that a cull is purely related nonsense related to increasing forest cover..

    Aldo, this cull is based on data from the DHL claimed returns. There not doing surveys of deer..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Zxthinger


    How are they going to implement this nation wide cull over private land..

    The only place they have authority is over national parks..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,088 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,088 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    More deer culling in the news.A deer ran into Jacky Cahil TD car so obviously it is a serious issue!Along with nonsense from John[ Tierne]y? Huntsab in Waterford Along with Nula Donlon another hunt sab waffling on about giving deer contraceptives.

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/were-riddled-with-them-is-it-time-for-a-deer-cull-1432062

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭clivej


    "waffling on about giving deer contraceptives. "

    A lead pill?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭kunekunesika


    No,???

    Lead isn't safe to use in contraceptives. Has to be copper now



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,088 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Hate to tell you.Lynx will not be able to kill any of our native deer.Roe deer possibly,but we don't have any here in the 32 counties . Also their staple food, rabbits are not as plentiful here anymore either, so small dogs, domestic cats and fowl will do them instead.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,088 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    IDS Press release 27/01/23

    Data released by the National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS) to the Irish Deer Commission show 55,008 wild deer were culled in 2022. The cull sets a record for the number of wild deer culled, up 24% from the previous record set in 2019 when 44,381 deer were culled. Hunters must make an annual declaration to NPWS stating the number of deer culled by county, sex, and species, and this data is provided to the Irish Deer Commission annually. While the data is not independently verified, hunters are required to sign a declaration confirming the accuracy of the information returned.

    However, Damien Hannigan a spokesperson for the Irish Deer Commission stated “the actual deer cull is likely to be significantly higher as the cull total does not include the growing problem of illegal killing of wild deer known as deer poaching, nor does the total include the growing number of deer killed on our roads. Over the last five years over 200,000 wild deer were culled in Ireland under licence from the NPWS and highlights the important role licensed deer hunters play in managing deer at sustainable levels to minimise negative impacts on farming, forestry, and the wider ecosystem.” “The Irish Deer Commission actively work with landowners who suffer negative impacts from wild deer, we also support the various agencies who deal with an increasing number of deer-vehicle collisions on our roads through a network of trained members.”

    Why are more deer being culled? There may be several factors, firstly the number of hunters licensed to cull deer has grown significantly with 6,232 licenses issued in 2022, up 17% from the previous year when 5,344 licences were issued to cull deer during the open culling season from September 1st to February 28th, with dedicated periods when male and female deer can be culled. There is no open season for native red deer in County Kerry due to their national conservation importance, management is undertaken by local NPWS staff. The average number of deer culled per hunter has remained between 6 to 8 deer annually since records began in 1999.

    The Irish Deer Commission believe restrictions around the management of deer during the Covid-19 pandemic, combined with a worldwide crash in venison prices, delays by NPWS in the issuing of deer culling permits, poor forestry design for the management of deer, and a rapid expansion afforestation in Ireland, all have created the perfect storm for deer numbers to increase.

    How many deer were culled in your county? 70% of the national deer cull came from the six counties of Wicklow, Cork, Waterford, Tipperary, Kerry, Galway (38,526 deer*), County Wicklow, an area believed to have an overpopulation of wild deer in some areas was responsible for 36% of the cull with 19,997 deer*. The Irish Deer Commission says best practice deer management requires more female deer to be culled than males, and the cull returns show the important job undertaken by licensed deer hunters with 26,216 females culled versus 22,401 males during the regular culling season. 6,751 deer were also culled out of season by the granting of permits under section 42 of the wildlife acts, with 924 permits granted by NPWS nationally, with 608 permits granted in County Wicklow which resulted in 4,717 deer culled.

    County

    Number of Deer Culled

    County

    Number of Deer Culled

     

     

     

     

    Longford

    111

    Clare

    1844

    Louth

    152

    Cork

    2492

    Limerick

    488

    Cavan

    269

    Mayo

    1730

    Carlow

    478

    Meath

    369

    Donegal

    1890

    Monaghan

    347

    Dublin

    1077

    Offaly

    1412

    Galway

    3618

    Roscommon

    646

    Kildare

    462

    Sligo

    1114

    Kerry

    2568

    Tipperary

    4770

    Kilkenny

    414

    Waterford

    3679

    Laois

    1951

    Wicklow

    15280

    Leitrim

    358

    Westmeath

    249

    Out of Season

    6751

    Wexford

    382


    Out of state

    135


    Why are there calls for a national deer cull recently? The population of wild deer in Ireland is unknown, as a population census has never taken place, so calls for culls are often ill-informed or from individuals who do understand how to manage deer to ensure they co-exist with other land uses, and many people are not aware we already have a national cull of over 55,000 wild deer each year. The management of wild deer has become an increasingly emotive topic with polarised views from those in farming, forestry, rewilding, tourism, photographers, hunting, and conservationists. The Irish Deer Commission recently described comments by Minister Eamon Ryan as arbitrary and unhelpful, when the Minister called for a national cull, not knowing one was already taking place. It has been suggested certain land use sectors have engaged in extensive political lobbying to have more deer culls increased, seasons changed without regard for animal welfare, or an attempt to reclassify our wild deer as an invasive species without understanding this would cause deer to spread further and become more difficult to manage, while deer management experts have stated it is crucial deer management decisions are well founded and based on factual scientific data, and not as a result of political or land use sector pressure.

    Public Deer Management Consultation – Minister Charlie McConalogue and Minister Darragh O’Brien recently launched a deer management strategy group to develop a national deer management strategy, followed by a public consultation on the management of our wild deer through a short online survey CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE SURVEY, the strategy group is chaired by a dairy farmer, Teddy Cashman. However, the strategy group and survey have caused considerable concern among deer experts and deer management organisations, as the deer management strategy group has no stakeholders or deer experts but only civil servants from the Department of Agriculture, Food, and the Marine, Department of Housing, and semi-state Coillte. Both the Irish Deer Commission and administrators of the Hunter Competence Assessment Programme (HCAP), Deer Alliance have highlighted concerns that the consultation process is designed in a manner that has a predetermined outcome, nor does it address the basic principles to develop a national deer management strategy.

    *Includes out-of-season cull totals

    For further details on how to apply for IDC membership CLICK HERE 

    Section 42 Permits granted in 2022.


     

     

     

     

     

     

    Deer Hunting Licences by County

     


    Deer Cull Returns detail.

     


     

     

    Yours in sport

    Kenneth Sewell

    Hon. Secretary

    Irish Deer Commission

    Website & Membership: www.irishdeercommission.ie

    Membership Queries: membership@irishdeercommission.ie

    General & Media Queries: info@irishdeercommission.ie

    Deer Poaching (members only): deerpoachingreports@irishdeercommission.ie


    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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