Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120593401#Comment_120593401

Is this the Dogan chap with 150 offences committed that Turkey are looking for?

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594781#Comment_120594781

Is it 150 offences or wanted in 150 countries? People spreading shaggy dog stories on social media from no-name Twitter egg accounts can't seem to make up their mind.

creeper1

Inner city Dublin social problems are probably something that's going to have to be dealt with at some stage. Some posters on here talking about taking away their homes or benefits or throwing them in mount joy. We can debate whether we are too soft on them or what the solutions are.

What can't be denied however is the fact that they are Irish and therefore 100% Ireland's responsibility. There are no easy answers.

Something that should be easy however is saying "no" to the rest of the world's problems. We don't owe Nigeria, Georgia or even for that matter Ukraine a thing.

A lot of posters dislike seeing Ukrainian men in Ireland. However they at least have a real threat of being fed into a war and being killed. Should they fight? Perhaps but also perhaps not.

Zero refugee policy is adopted by Denmark, Singapore, Japan and others. It's a perfectly reasonable position and a position that should be adopted by Ireland. Ireland has done more than enough and been an absolute hero to Ukrainian. Ireland can be justifiably extremely proud.

Luxembourgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120592953#Comment_120592953

Nah, I think awful kick it down the road government policy does neither group a favour.

Actual shanty towns in Dublin. Government policy has encouraged a race to the bottom in this country. Complete avoidance of responsibility by those in government and those outside.

Luxembourgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594589#Comment_120594589

Are you saying we should actively encourage shanty towns and hope they become more widespread?

I don't support scumbags protesting, I do support a shanty town being dismantled.

It's shameful failing to deal with immigration and instead focusing on things most people don't care about, our politicians have fucked this. Too much money too little decision making.

jackboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594810#Comment_120594810

Setting up these shanty towns was intentional government policy, they knew accommodation was not available for these refugees. It’s a really nasty racist policy. I would be more worried that they will be significantly expanded and made permanent.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594126#Comment_120594126

The actions of the violent neanderthals plays right into the government's hands. They have proven themselves to be far far right gobshites.

I don't doubt for a second that they are being encouraged to act like assholes on various social media channels but it completely ruins the arguments of any anti immigration folks.

Luxembourgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594931#Comment_120594931

That's not true. It's not policy, is just fear and incompetence. The fear of an unpopular decision, and just a lack of being about to think about cause and effect

Better to close your eyes and hope it goes away

Luxembourgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594995#Comment_120594995

I agree, though reading some of the comments from journal.ie journalists this morning, they unintentionally make great points as to why immigration is a problem, and that they fundamentally misunderstand the problem. Unfortunately only one side is ridiculed

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594995#Comment_120594995

SM is not representative of the opinion most of the Irish people, but it is representative of the people who use SM.

So if you take SM users as a sample, then you will have to accept that the vast majority of them think that we don’t need anymore international protection applicants right now, mostly because of the housing crisis and the fact that there is a huge question mark over the bona fides of most of them.

jackboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595111#Comment_120595111

In fairness they knew going way way back that such shanty towns would be created because of their policies. They ploughed on even though they knew this outcome would happen. This means that the shanty towns are a result of and part of government policy. As I said I would be worried that they will be expanded.

Fear and incompetence may be the reasons but the policies were agreed and implemented.

downtheroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120593234#Comment_120593234

Exactly the type who would be anti public services card or national identity card. Facial recognition software should be used to identify each of these scrotes and haul them into their Intreo office to justify why we should keep paying their weekly dole, providing them with free accommodation around Pearse Street and all the other handouts they get.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594810#Comment_120594810

My questions to the poster was quite clear, gven that they are an immigrant and their report of how their neighbours view the incident.

downtheroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595201#Comment_120595201

Yeah good idea. The technology is there, May aswell make use of it.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120593234#Comment_120593234

PBP will be knocking on their doors next year looking for their votes.

Luxembourgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595233#Comment_120595233

This is fair.

I do find it astonishing the lack of outrage over the fact we have tent cities and shanty towns in our capital. A horrific lowering of standards

The_Kew_Tour

Could they now be housed where NGOs work and who want support them?

Surely would be safest place for these people plus they are protected.

Where is the compassion from these NGOs

Surely they be happy with them with roof over there head the stuck in tent in pouring rain.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120593278#Comment_120593278

How is filling it up with unvetted young men from other countries going to be of any benefit to the area?

Luxembourgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595286#Comment_120595286

I do find the dynamics of this fascinating.....

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120590986#Comment_120590986

the government are making a mess off things but these attacks have nothing to do with refugees or the government and everything to do with Irish scrotes and brainless morons

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594786#Comment_120594786

And Ukraine have been clear they don’t want all men joining the war as believe it or not some are not fighters

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595317#Comment_120595317

Impossible to get worse then the young men that have always occupied that area. Even if some of these unvetted men get jobs it will be an improvement on then current lot.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595357#Comment_120595357

So just to be clear, you want to kick out the Irish young men from the area they were born in and don't see anything wrong with putting lads from other countries there instead even though most of them come with no ID or passports which means we have no idea who they are or what they might have done before coming here.

That makes no sense at all.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595428#Comment_120595428

Get rid the people who have no interest in a job and spend their time committing crime versus taking the risk on the people who might have never committed a crime and who might actually want work.

I have absolutely no idea how you think that doesn't make sense.

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120593234#Comment_120593234

Can the people chanting refugees are welcome here be identified perchance. They want them - they should get them.

We'll give the students a free pass- bless them, but everyone else get a couple of refugees dropped to their doorstep. Gets the refugees off the streets and the 'take em all in bridade' get to put their money where their mouth is- a win-win!

high_tower

Funny, the Ireland for all crowd on here have such sharp opinions of the locals having to live next to tent city. Not as warm and fuzzy and highly discriminatory packing every local into the same group. That’s the thing bout champagne socialists though , it’s back every other “oppressed minority” but to hell with the local working class.

high_tower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120594438#Comment_120594438

Not weak. Also a you’re inferring he’s definitely not a terrorist despite being a wanted man. You don’t have a clue what he’s done so stop implying you do.

what if he cracked one of the women with the metal pole he was swinging around freely.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595448#Comment_120595448

They're not working class, they're criminal class. Working class people actually work, hence the term.

Honesty Policy

In fairness...I absolutely condone violence but I do see why the working to lower classes are very frustrated at this government and the system. They will mostly be marginalised in their lives and either through culture or laziness require social housing and supports.

In the past, they were mostly 'competing' against each other for this housing and now it's a huge population span.

I see who got the social housing in this town recently and it would open your eyes!

I really wish this government would sort out this mess before the population increases any more and get people fast tracked through the system. Quick decisions as we simply cannot help everyone as much as your bleeding heart might think!

We really do not need more people who have huge needs in terms of social housing etc and can work but won't.

The once middle class in this country are fast becoming the lower class here and it's scary.

This whole climate change lark too....if we keep rapidly increasing our population, we will have increased emissions and will end up like Italy and Spain very quickly.

By the way, I feel priviledged to have had the upbringing and life I did to date but I feel this is rapidly diminishing for my children.

high_tower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120595464#Comment_120595464

So everyone in that area is a criminal ? As it’s the whole areas population being slandered on where. Lovely view.

also how would you like a rent city at the end of your street ? Full of random men - no women or children - from every country apart from ukraine ?

Im no fan of the chancers coming over. But I put most of the blame here on the govs actions on sending out the invite then inaction when they all arrive here. Absolutely shocking behaviour and policy and should be stood down.

who would have thought in 2023 we’d be arguing about tent cities full of African and Middle Eastern men pretending to be refugees. Ireland really is about to go backwards.