Time for a zero refugee policy? - Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24

lukas8888 · 29-11-2023 12:38pm

Your comment re planning permission is untrue.They are accommodated in Hotels ,Hostels,B&Bs etc all over Ireland without any extra planning permission required.

Strazdas · 29-11-2023 12:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121432383#Comment_121432383

There is a specific legal / planning issue re. Dromahair apparently and that is why refugees cannot move in at the moment (and it still hasn't been sorted out). But they also say refugees won't be moved in without full consultation and agreement with the local community. One suggestion that has been made is that only half the number of allocated refugees might go there.

Varik · 29-11-2023 12:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121432383#Comment_121432383

The 950-1000 going to rural Wicklow are all going into to be built cabins.

Not to mention change of use in the case of Electric Picnic's tents.

ShamNNspace · 29-11-2023 1:07pm

"we all need to reflect on how a country with our resources" cannot accommodate the constant stream of refugees/economic migrants/ipa's according to Nick Henderson from his lofty perch

Kermit.de.frog · 29-11-2023 2:02pm

They are saying now they want to put migrants in places "without tensions". Surely that's only spreading the issues? Places without tensions might see tensions grow. There is a chaotic feeling about the whole thing.

ArthurDayne · 29-11-2023 2:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121432206#Comment_121432206

Part of the problem though is that, if Boards were representative of the population, then absolutely nobody is far right, absolutely nobody is racist, absolutely nobody is xenophobic and absolutely nobody is ignorant. We acknowledge that all these things do exist in our society, but according to Boards it's next to impossible to find anyone who actually harbours any such opinions and those constantly and obsessively musing over immigration and the behaviour of immigrants are always and exclusively simply concerned citizens.

When people find themselves saying "how dare you call me [one of those things], I'm certainly not!" ... I think to myself, well, maybe you actually are. Or maybe you (not you directly) harbour certain components of those views and haven't really critically thought about whether they are based on far rightism or any other ism or phobia — but apparently nobody does, it's all sincere concern 24/7.

I mean, Leo Varadkar is publicly stating that Ireland is at a point where its ability to host refugees is now at its capacity limit for hosting refugees. He doesn't get called far right or racist or xenophobic — why? Why is it only the people who seem to obsess over the race, culture, religion, nationality etc of refugees who get called all the labels? Is it beyond the realms of the imagination that sometimes they are actually simply guilty of the isms/phobias?

lukas8888 · 29-11-2023 2:48pm

No legal/planning issue whatsoever.It is in exactly the same situation as all other accommodation providers all over Ireland.I live not far from there.It is completely insane to consider housing any amount of refugees in the village.No school places,doctor availability,transport non existent. Ridiculous proposal no matter how much to try to justify it.

Coolcormack1979 · 29-11-2023 2:57pm

Shinner on Clare Byrne earlier from Leitrim and no change was the mantra.people that think the shinners in government next time are going to stop this nonsense are going to be in for a rude awakening

pgj2015 · 29-11-2023 2:58pm

https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2023/1128/1418979-leitrim/

unbelievable and disgusting, who do they think they are? racism and sexism simple as. They dont want single males there according to Harkin, because dont you know single males are all murderers. 🤦‍♂️

Not a hope would Harkin ever get my vote after that. if 200 Irish people from Cork were moved to dromahair, no one living there would care but seeing as they aren't irish lets all pretend we care that there is no community centre lol.

"concerned residents" = Racists.

dmakc · 29-11-2023 3:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121432932#Comment_121432932

When you consider that 60% of those arriving are destroying their documentation (why do this if you're sincere?), that equates to roughly 93 bogus AS being dumped into this village with no services to accommodate such an increase in numbers.

You don't have to look far and wide to see the trouble that's brewing within these IPA centres elsewhere, or the hassle local residents are experiencing as a result of accommodating said AS.

The government are also displaying bad faith in these situations. They have no long term plan and Killarney has shown that if you give this government an inch, they'll take a mile.

WrenBoy · 29-11-2023 3:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121432932#Comment_121432932

I mean, ya... we were all told last year that all men are a danger so doesn't this follow ??

PokeHerKing · 29-11-2023 3:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121431124#Comment_121431124

I have no idea what this is meant to be achieving but it's absolutely not a chance fpr my voice to be heard on immigration policy in Ireland.

It's a satisfactory questionnaire for immigrants as far as I can tell.

Loafing Oaf · 29-11-2023 3:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121432928#Comment_121432928

people that think the shinners in government next time are going to stop this nonsense

I find it hard to believe any remotely politically aware person genuinely believes that at this stage...

batman_oh · 29-11-2023 3:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433025#Comment_121433025

Worked smashingly well in Sweden too. They literally did the same thing, dump loads of people that they had no idea who they were in places that had no ability to support them. But the Irish are sound so they'll all integrate seamlessly and live happily every after.

ShamNNspace · 29-11-2023 3:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433047#Comment_121433047

Gave up half way through myself, like wading through a swamp, life's too short

PokeHerKing · 29-11-2023 3:24pm

With Nigers Coup d'etat government decriminalising people trafficking we're going to see an uptick in migrants over the next year.

No doubt Putin played a large part in this decision. European politicians are allowing Putin to wage a proxy war on Europe for fear of being labelled racists.

We're entering the final stage in the below qouted cycle imo.

Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

Annasopra · 29-11-2023 3:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121432932#Comment_121432932

Unvetted vigilantes talking about safety?

tom23 · 29-11-2023 4:49pm

I feel sometimes Nick thinks we only have problems housing Refugees / IPA and we have no homegrown problems of our own. Shure we are super rich.

Real Donald Trump · 29-11-2023 5:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433070#Comment_121433070

Indeed, it is a good job that we have competent leaders who can handle this situation.

pgj2015 · 29-11-2023 10:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433253#Comment_121433253

I suppose if they let them in every man woman and child would be dead by the next day. they are very dangerous, all single males.

lmimmfn · 29-11-2023 11:13pm

It's an interesting social experiment at least, in terms of impacts on tax take/use of our taxes and the impact on local communities.

What was it? ah yes "lessons will be learned", that will be fun to listen to in a few years when we are like Sweden.

malinheader · 29-11-2023 11:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435285#Comment_121435285

Must be very dangerous countries there running from when they leave their mothers, wives,sisters, sons or daughters behind 🤔.

pgj2015 · 30-11-2023 2:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435479#Comment_121435479

who said they have any mothers, wives, sisters or sons? 🙄

rgossip30 · 30-11-2023 6:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435957#Comment_121435957

Logic unless you want to believe they are all orphans .This would help your asylum case if you say all your family was killed and difficult to prove .

riddles · 30-11-2023 7:27am

Are the Green Party not concerned with all this inward migration and increased carbon as a by product? Hard to find an A rated tent this time of the year 😁

malinheader · 30-11-2023 7:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121435957#Comment_121435957

OK maybe they are all only child single orphaned men. Who knows. And here is the problem no one seems to know anything about them and doesn't seem to care about checking or control so do you not think local communities are right to be concerned.

Why is it always buses of large groups of men, where are the families. I cannot get anyone to answer this so you will probably ignore this fact too.