Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

malinheader

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579185#Comment_121579185

Definitely describes some on here I'm thinking.

RobbieTheRobber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579885#Comment_121579885

No I did not bring his name into the discussion. Perhaps you should inform others posters what this thread is about. Eh.

I haven't defended any "culprit"

What a strange thing to claim.

Juran

Daily Mail today:

Ireland grants asylum to a 83% of migrant applicants. 

"Estonia (97.7 per cent), Switzerland (87.1 per cent), Ireland (83 per cent), Portugal (81.9 per cent) the Netherlands (81.7 per cent) and Lithuania (80.2 per cent) are the only countries to rank above Britain"

"Romania had the lowest approval rate at 14.4 per cent, with Cyprus (17.8 per cent), Malta (28.3 per cent), France (30.6 per cent), Iceland (30.9 per cent) and Sweden (31.4 per cent) following"

No wonder the boys are coming to Ireland instead of France or Sweden.

It would be interesting to see how many actually try to claim aslyum in Estonia compared with Ireland.

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121580070#Comment_121580070

I brought up the case as an example of the press being selective in reporting issues around immigrants and crime, you provided the evidence, twice, in what was one of the greatest displays of self sabotage since Andrew's interview on Newnight 😂😂😂

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121553755#Comment_121553755

Now that Ballinrobe has said no now, this problem is continuing to escalate. It looks like the community laying pressure on the property owners has succeeded in reversing the decision to lease. This will be a template that all other communities will follow. I can't see many more centres opening now.

This is a massive self created problem for the Government.

rgossip30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121579185#Comment_121579185

Not helped by you going on and on and on big deal get over it .

snl rory

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/profits-of-gloom-millions-are-being-made-from-state-contracts-to-provide-housing-for-the-homeless-and-refugees/a1234038739.html

https://archive.ph/V1bFX

Floppybits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121580259#Comment_121580259

Was the centre in Ballinrobe originally for Ukranian refugees and was then changed by the department to be for IPA? Is that when the protests started when that change was made?

I think the protest here worked because the building was still owned by people living in the community and they say the impact and pulled out or maybe it was fear of the building being a target for those going around burning them. I think if the building was owned by a company or owners not in from the area then I don't think the protests would have worked as we see in Ringsend as the owners don't care for the community

bloopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121581696#Comment_121581696

This all sounds dodgy as f***

snl rory

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121582017#Comment_121582017

Standard FFG governments antics , lessons learned and all that.

StrawbsM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121581777#Comment_121581777

I noticed recently on the etenders procurement page that the contract text has changed. There used to be 2 different contracts, one for Ukrainian refugees and one for international protection applicants. Now they’re all on the same contract. So I’m assuming that just because an owner “would like” Ukrainian refugees, the contract doesn’t guarantee it.

I’ve also noticed that many more owners are now leasing the properties to newly set up companies and it is this new company that has the contract with the government.

This is now big business and i wonder if it has overtaken tourism when it comes to revenue?

tom23

i should of trained as a barber.

Ten of Swords

Mod

@RobbieTheRobber @RobbieV and @freebritney drop this back and forth, or take it to PM, and move the discussion forward please

Ordinary man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121581777#Comment_121581777

The locals were led to believe it would be mixed or families, same as the other 60 refugees(not imo including ukrainians) in the town. It was when it was anounced that 50 single men were going into 12 rooms that the protests started.

Montage of Feck

Just an observation on the media language used, towns "welcome" refugees rather than receive IPA's.

malinheader

Until the government or these money grabbing NGOs explain why there is such a influx of all young men being placed in these places and explain where their families and children are and also why alot have no documentation, then every town, village and community in Ireland should say No.

We have all seen the pictures which they want stopped of them stepping off the buses in their designer gear.

It's a farce and should be called out as a farce.

SEPT 23 1989

The government needs to “take charge” of the debate on immigration going forward

they lost that right when they turned their back on the interests of Irish people who elected them

I was going to say their own people but they have nothing in common with us now

roll on the elections they are in for some eye opener

fran38

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/davy-fitzgerald-pays-off-50000-council-debt-over-derelict-pub/a1693906498.html

So Davy paid off a debt he had previously been against paying. Just to open a residential centre. He wouldnt have paid a thing if he hadnt got cast iron garauntees that this 'residential centre' would be a money spinner. The village of Newmarket On Fergus will be pretty nervous tonight.

Carlito Brigantes Tale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121582017#Comment_121582017

I'd be surprised if it wasn't tbh.

ziggyman17

why is there not a referendum being planned on refugees coming into the country, unless I am mistaken politicians are elected to carry out the will of the people, not to go rogue and do as they please ( to their own profit ) borders should be closed and no passports handed out till the people of the country have their say...

Carlito Brigantes Tale

Brought the eldest to his football match today and got talking to some of the other parents on the sidelines and all are pissed off as to what is happening now with this immigration scam.

If the government don't think this has become the number one topic for the next election they are sorely mistaken. There is real anger out there and folk are genuinely worried about where we are headed as a nation and a people in the coming years.

malinheader

If anyone is In any doubt about how out of touch the government is ,listen to Varadkar on rte1 radio station being interviewed today.

Totally not bothered one bit about what the Irish people want but only concerned about what he thinks is right.

Anyhow the station is more or less owned by the government now so any fair discussion on this matter won't be happening.

Jizique

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121584048#Comment_121584048

And the govt have the temerity to lecture us on how the media and govt funds for supporters is used in Hungary by the incumbent but how different is it here with RTE and press and all the "paid for by the govt of ireland" or HSE on every topic under the sun.

tom23

A narcissist only cars about themselves. Varadker never cared about anybody.

1800_Ladladlad

RTE: 'An anti-racism campaign in Mayo has called on people in Ballinrobe to oppose an ongoing protest outside a hotel in the town, which had been earmarked to house asylum seekers' .....They claim it was a “tiny minority” that protested outside the hotel but we’ve all seen the videos from Ballinrobe. Rte and the rest of the media are something else...

Taoiseach says No one has a veto on who moves into a community. Yes they absolutely do. The protest was a fine example of the community excercising their democratic right. The owner of the hotel took note, and did the right thing.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0107/1425149-immigration/

Is opposing protest not opposing democracy and human rights. These NGO's and their they/them minions sound fashy.

Ballinrobe= racist

Ballsbridge=worried about health and safety

thomas 123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121582179#Comment_121582179

You can be sure it has,

the room rate may be less but think of it this way, using a hotel for example:

• forecast into the future by years
• no staff to pay(compared to running a hotel for tourists)
• no standards to maintain
• no reviews or angry guests to deal with
• no competition

then a nursing home:

• no nurses
• no private ambulances
• again no satisfaction level to hit
• no specialist equipment or dietry requirements

The baseline payment is probably less then what both examples would make in revenue but you can be damn sure profits are gone up in the tens percentage wise in both cases.

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121584171#Comment_121584171

We all remember the nihilism of our late teens and early 20’s before we met the right woman and settled down and had children

as soon as your children are born you forget about yourself and worry about what’s coming next for them

it’s just ingrained human nature and it’s been that way since the dawn of time

Fred Cryton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121583995#Comment_121583995

Has there ever been another time in this countries history where the government, the opposition parties, the NGOs and the mainstream media all lined up together in direct opposition to what the people on the ground actually want? Pretty much all the people - working class, middle class and welfare recipients. And with sheer pompous arrogance just tell those people they're wrong and there's nothing they can do about it and its going to continue? This is truly the most bizarre of times. You could hardly make this up as a horror novel.

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121584503#Comment_121584503

what it does is gives you a glimpse into the lives of people who lived on the eastern side of the iron curtain

Jizique

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121584635#Comment_121584635

You can understand why Orban is so popular in Hungary, he is the only EU leader who seems to be going against the various directives of the EU Commission (even if I think he is in Putin's pocket)