Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627689#Comment_121627689

What have the GAA clubs done to encourage them to join? I play hurling and football for my local club (Junior C at my age!) and I have seen plenty of instances of racism both on the field and on the sideline. I am heavily involved in my rural club but I have often seen the "black lads" targeted when they came in from mainly urban clubs. I am not saying everyone in the club in racist but it definitely exists. It's a problem in the GAA but I suppose you'll get ignorant mentalities in many organisations. My GAA club is more likely to organise a prayer service to solve the immigration crisis than a meeting to integrate "foreigners"!

rgossip30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628609#Comment_121628609

Ukrainians can work immediately asylum seekers after 6 months !!

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628609#Comment_121628609

Where was I called out? A lad who left the area 30 years ago spouting shite about people making fun of brightly coloured clothes. I never said a single bad word against anyone in Ballaghaderreen or Ballyhaunis. I simply said if you change a towns demographics by a large amount it changes that community and it has. Neither you nor the other poster has pointed out one thing that I said that is racist or was untrue.

GBXI

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628634#Comment_121628634

Right, and my opinion is we shouldn't wait as long as 6 months but maybe the department have good reason for that.

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628624#Comment_121628624

Ballyhaunis organised buses from the accommodation centre to collect the kids for training and matches, they went out of their way to get them involved https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/gaa-club-s-integration-policy-pays-off-in-ireland-s-most-ethnically-diverse-town-1.2237262, The article was written in 2015 and its been such a success that the club has amalgamated at underage level due to poor numbers. What's your first response though, attack the local community, they're racists, let's blame them.

GBXI

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628743#Comment_121628743

Both towns are the largest in East Mayo and both are senior GAA clubs. Ballyhaunis amalgamated 3 years ago and Ballaghaderreen are amalgamating next year. There's zero integration bar a token player here and there (Shiroz Akram bring one). This is the dog whistling. What part of this incoherent rant is anything to do with the topic at hand? Integration in GAA clubs, what has that go to do with anything?

People are nervous about walking after dark due to large groups of males standing around street corners. Says who? I have been to both towns many times in the past 5 years and further back and I have seen none of this - I also have family in one of those towns, business owners, and they have nothing negative to say about any of the non-Irish born people in the town anymore than they do the Irish-born.

The Irish Times and certain posters here will tell you that everything is great and the towns are thriving, but it's simply not true. The towns have rarely if ever been better, this is what is actually true.

newhouse87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628622#Comment_121628622

This clown speaking in 2014. "we simply cannot expect to provide for the vast number of economic migrants who seek a better life." "It would be wrong for us to pretend otherwise,". Up there with, mental murphy as hypocrites. Was it 14th count he got elected. He won't run again. His political career over thank God. Fool of a man.

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628824#Comment_121628824

Nothing incoherent about it. Simply stating despite both towns having large populations their clubs have suffered as the new arrivals aren't integrating in the GAA clubs, didn't say there is anything wrong with it, just stating a fact. You can read into it what you will.

As for people being nervous at night, work coleagues and friends from the town have told me they're weary. They hold the same sway as your friends who told you they're not.

Define rarely if ever better???

nolivesmatter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627594#Comment_121627594

Yep. Ok, let's see what our options are for who might implement such a model after the next general election...

Uh oh..

The options are depressing to look at.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628784#Comment_121628784

Ok genius, you tell me why the clubs couldn't get enough members at underage.

You don't need to get upset when I describe instances I have seen in GAA circles in Galway. Clubs amalgamate all the time by the way. Some even do so at underage levels only.

Lofidelity

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627532#Comment_121627532

The meat factory in Balla closed 20 years ago. If you don't know that then your hardly an expert speaker on the place.

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628966#Comment_121628966

No, your the one who said the clubs are racist and did nothing to intigrate the new arrivals. Your not getting to weasel out of your statement blaimng the locals. Why haven't the new arrivals intigrated?

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628979#Comment_121628979

I was going to save that for later. I know his type, left the area 30/40 years ago and has no idea what things are like now. I love how someone in Roscrea/Donegal or Mayo tells people what things are like only for some lad in London or Dublin who couldn't find your town on a map tells you your wrong.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628750#Comment_121628750

And where is these tens of thousands of jobs coming from exactly

Lofidelity

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627548#Comment_121627548

The original meat factories in Ballyhaunis and Ballaghaderreen was owned by a Pakistani man who brought in staff from there for the halal slaughter process. This is the 1980's. The difference then though was that there was few family's with them, just men sharing houses. Men doing hard work and keeping a low profile. The families only started arriving in the 2000's and plenty of them are unemployed.

Lofidelity

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628824#Comment_121628824

In the last paragraph you say " the towns have rarely if ever been better"

If that is true why has the last shoe shop in Balla closed a year ago after 30 years in business? Or a popular 200 year old pub unable to find a new buyer after a year on sale?

The population may be growing there's no jobs.

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628966#Comment_121628966

The reason I was told by numerous club members and officials from both clubs was that the local kids started to go to surrounding schools because the town schools had such large numbers. The kids then made friends in those schools and if the school was in the catchement of a different club the kids went with their friends unless their parents had strong ties to the town club. It's not sinister, I'm not far right, I'm just sharing the experience I see happening locally. All I've been trying to say all along is that large scale immigration into rural areas has consequences, some good, some bad.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628925#Comment_121628925

You forgot:

Independents

Independent Ireland

Farmers Alliance

This is where my votes will be going.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628624#Comment_121628624

You're so sensitive. Where did I say the 2 GAA clubs in Mayo were racist? See above and point it out. I was referring to instances I have seen in my very rural club. A bad chairman can ruin a club.

Why don't you tell me why the immigrants won't play GAA in those Mayo clubs? You're the local. Are there other sports available or more popular e.g. soccer.

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628609#Comment_121628609

Dumped is a proper description of what is happening, the dehumanizing is caused by the government not by people accurately describing what the government are doing.

I know housing is a problem.But unless we fix it we shouldn't be importing people to the country simple as that .You should not be engaging in a policy of increasing population and deciding to not improve infrastructure and services first.On top of housing we also have a shortage of hospital beds, prison spaces , school places, GP's .That is government policy to increase population without improving infrastructure and services first and its an idiotic policy that the government defends by claiming anyone opposed to immigration is racist, people are gradually beginning to see through the governments attempts to cover their incompetence. A sensible country would operate on the principle that if we don't have the infrastructure to deal with more people we have to control the amount of people who live in the country.

batman_oh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121628609#Comment_121628609

People being dumped (and accurate description) is dehumanising and disgraceful. But calling somebody bigoted, ignorant, racist, far right etc if they question it is fair game.

If it wasn't so serious it would be comical.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629267#Comment_121629267

I don't get it. Kids should always play for their "parish" club no matter where their school is. For example, I am sure loads of Corofin lads went to school in Tuam but they would never ever play for Tuam Stars.

Why did parents sent them to country schools further away?

And relax, I never use the 'far right' term it's meaningless. I am a details man.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629388#Comment_121629388

I had a look at Farmers Alliance website and policies yesterday. Looks decent. An option for sure but they will need decent candidates.

StrawbsM

Have asylum seekers moved into the former nursing home in Ballsbridge yet?

pc7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121627856#Comment_121627856

When I seen the headline about the Government setting up a new hotel, I genuinely thought it was a Waterford Whispers piss take, you cannot make this **** up.

freebritney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629646#Comment_121629646

Rural clubs are dependent on numbers, losing a few players can mean no team at that age grade. Often times you can be on the border of 2/3 clubs and can play for either one. I doubt any of the Corofin lads went to primary school in Tuam when they've 3 schools in the parish so it's not a great analogy. A lot of kids in Ballyhaunis went to Brickens and ended up playing for Eastern Gaels which is who they ended up amalgamating with. A lot in Ballaghaderreen ended up in Fairymount I believe. Parents sent them to country schools that were further away because of class sizes in the town schools along with the fact that a lot of the class may not speak English as their first language. It's hard to blame parents.

Gussoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629848#Comment_121629848

What the hell is a government hotel? Are we living in N Korea?

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121630172#Comment_121630172

Mountjoy???

Gussoe

Just shows the government will spout any ol' nonsense to try and get people to STFU.

malinheader

How can government ministers listen to TV and radio and not realise why their is so much anger in the country. All day today I'm hearing the likes of calms saying they have to close certain services due to lack of funding. In my own area they have closed down the local mental health services, the list goes on. But we can turn around and seemingly throw money at a disused hotel in Roscrea to try and soften the locals after destroying their community with refugees, immigrants, IPAs who knows at this stage I don't even know if the government knows who were placing in this accommodation. How can and sane Irish citizens justify what is happening.