Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122413306#Comment_122413306

Same experience TAP from Lisbon. There was a family flying from Brazil I think and they were pulled to the side and then got a further grilling at passport control. From what i heard they were parents and some siblings visiting a family member here. It was quite the grilling and very loud aggressive questioning. The officer asked them "who told you to come to ireland" and "why did you come to ireland" even after they clearly stated their reason.

I was coming from Brazil aswell.

The customs officers were literally on the jetbridge!

Like you - never seen that before

Repro212

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122413609#Comment_122413609

Thanks for sharing, bit of light bed time reading! I'll quote this next time I mention replacement and get a warning for 'conspiracy nonsense'.

RoyalCelt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122413626#Comment_122413626

Would be IPA's be using up more health resources anyway?

Gen.Zhukov

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122413306#Comment_122413306

It looks real tough alright, which is exactly the plan - It's pure optics.

Think about the options with the two women pulled aside. Let's say they were a bit dodge and claimed they had no passports/docs and told the immigration guys they wished to claim asylum - What can the immigration lads do? - Nothing but put them into the asylum system

All the other pax see them getting taken aside and are impressed, but it makes no difference whatsoever - Those two women (if they were attempting to claim asylum) no matter where they came from or their circumstances, likely were in a hotel room last night and got cab to take them to the IPO this morning

Don't forget, we are dealing with the ultimate spin masters here - The FG strategic comms unit is in full swing, 24/7, this year

It's all a bit like the report of the 50 system gamers allegedly being sent back to Belfast/Holyhead, coming out 10/12 days before the Local/EU elections but not a squeak of that strategy since - amazing!

creeper1

Another one saying the protests don't represent people in coolock is Darragh O'Brien. Apparently he grew up not far away.

Is he really saying people are for this?

Who TF is he talking to?

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412872#Comment_122412872

You mention doctors before going on to mention the salary of consultants. This is deliberately disingenuous on your part and discredits entirely your argument.

The fact remains that the Irish have gone down the same route as the Brits regarding junior doctors - pay them f**k all relative to their qualifications and hours required of them to work and let them leave and we'll replace them with Asians if needs be.

Peter Flynt

I've been all across Italy and I've never heard of 200-300 immigrants placed into hilltop towns like Montepulciano, Radda, Assisi, Montalcino, Montefalco, …… they'd literally change the course of thousands of years of history in one night.

So why are the Irish doing it in their small towns?

Because some FF/FG shyster owns a hotel and is out to make a killing?

giseva

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414133#Comment_122414133

Exactly. Anyone with an ounce of sense know that very few are on such salaries.

Many doctors are poorly paid, and like everyone else, they need a place to live!

So many issues in this country yet we keep adding to it.

Sure it was only recently Aer Lingus pulled their cheaper travel perks offered to their pilots that live in the UK but operate out of Ireland. Pilots! They don't live there for the craic!

Geert von Instetten

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122413609#Comment_122413609

The UN has advocated for replacement migration on an economic basis, in order to improve the economy in destination countries (through employment) and in departure countries (through remittances), for decades. Increasingly the UN and other international bodies have repositioned asylum as an economic opportunity for destination countries, despite evidence that asylum-related migration has incredibly limited economic benefits. The conspiracy is the idea that the establishment are incentivising immigration in order to genocide indigenous populations, the reality is considerably less exciting but regardless, the demographic shift is far from a conspiracy.

Gen.Zhukov

The next 'Ireland's Rich List' TV show will be interesting -

'In at number 38 we meet Tom O'Brien - Back in 2019 Tom was a washed up loser with a sh!t-hole of a B&B in the buttend of Drumnagorneyhacket - We caught up with Tom on his luxury yacht in the Caribbean earlier this year' - "I just kept voting for them, don't really know why, but by Jaysus, it's paid off now", laughed Tom as blood streamed from his right nostril

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122412872#Comment_122412872

While it is unlikely that there are too many future doctors going to be accommodated in the paint factory in Coolock, there probably aren't too many among the tracksuited-hoodie-and-balaclava-on-horseback-no-saddle brigade who are setting fire to it either.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414212#Comment_122414212

Hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are housed and fed by the state for the rest of their Iives has zero economic benefit to Ireland

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414273#Comment_122414273

Neither do unemployed wastrels and gurriers attacking guards and trying to burn down buildings.

Stephen_Maturin

https://www.thejournal.ie/fencing-on-grand-canal-costs-e30000-per-week-6441920-Jul2024/

Complete and utter piss take

Pissing away thousands of tax payers money to block off one of the only nice public amenities in the capital city

How enriching for us all

Geert von Instetten

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414273#Comment_122414273

Indeed, Danish and Dutch academics have conducted reports that demonstrates this, certain forms of migration are a net negative on the economy, despite the UN’s wish otherwise.

Repro212

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Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414279#Comment_122414279

Saud gurriers wouldn't be doing so if govt wasn't inviting all and sundry into the country

Mr. teddywinkles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414169#Comment_122414169

Exactly this a hundred fold is the real cusp of the problem. Too many well connected muppets

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414552#Comment_122414552

He has a problem with scoundrels and dole lifers not seeing that current policy is pretty much to double that cohort every year. 🤣

Kermit.de.frog

SF still don't get it. A lot fluffiness about "community consultations" before reverting to where they are...

Sinn Féin will insist that the new policy is grounded in “equality, anti-racism and human rights”

The supporters they've lost and those they are losing don't believe in any of this.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/07/23/sinn-fein-pledges-new-migration-system-in-significent-policy-shift/

Headshot

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/07/23/sinn-fein-pledges-new-migration-system-in-significent-policy-shift/

Sinn Féin is pledging to establish a new immigration system that would require an audit of local services such as health, housing, transport and education to be completed before any accommodation centre for asylum seekers is located in a community.

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Maybe they'll be something concrete in the pledge about stopping these illegals in the first place but I doubt it. This party and Mary Lou McDonald are living in their own world. They do not live in the same reality as you and I.

twinytwo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414664#Comment_122414664

"although the source stressed that nobody would have a veto on the location of facilities for asylum seekers."

We already know at least this much is a lie.

Essentially continue as is. This wont win SF any votes.

Stephen_Maturin

https://www.thejournal.ie/coolock-site-asylum-seekers-owner-crown-6443214-Jul2024/

Too many snouts in the trough now for anyone to stop it

It’s become an industry now - accommodation, NGOs, translators, caterers, legal aid, tents etc etc

We are witnessing the transfer of an enormous amount of taxpayer wealth to the hands of a small group of people, and anyone who questions this can be shouted down as a “racist” by the compliant media who are hand in fist with the government

**** me

golondrinas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414092#Comment_122414092

Maybe not but I waited a month for a doctor appointment when a few years ago it would have taken a couple of days. As I left the waiting room foreign voices were entering. As I was there last year arabic men were arguing in the carpark . Go figure.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414750#Comment_122414750

I think what we need is for people like your good self to pool your resources with your buddies, buy some properties, and make those properties available to the State for free to house asylum seekers!

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414552#Comment_122414552

What do you think they would be doing instead? Cancer research? Building new AI models and creating tech innovation? Civil engineers building Ireland's future infrastructure? Even filling the gap for qualified tradesmen?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414664#Comment_122414664

Sinn Féin will also recommend that a “two-tier system”, in which Ukrainians enjoy better conditions than asylum seekers from other countries, should end.

This is actually dangerous. The Ukrainians have been granted the right to come here and live here almost as if they are "temporary EU citizens". Their status here is completely different to the asylum seekers. What SF are saying is not (what I presume many eejits will think) that benefits will be removed from the Ukrainians, but that the asylum seekers benefits will be brought up to those conditions.

creeper1

It doesn't matter what SF's audits say.

The AS are going to continue to arrive. Then of course they'll need to be accommodated somewhere.

Not saying any party has a great solution but this Sinn Fein one isn't a panacea by any stretch and importantly the language is softly softly.

Tone is important. Look at what Denmark says you are left in no doubt of how they regard AS.

Gussie Scrotch

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122414750#Comment_122414750

This is a significant factor now. There are powerful people making an absolute killing out of this crisis. The government have created a monster and, short of a radical change of policy, its hard to see how things can be turned around.

Cluedo Monopoly

Interesting that the government TDs in the Coolock constituency (Dublin Bay North) are not getting involved at all.

Richard Bruton (FG) isn't running again so doesn't care. Sean Haughey (FF) is filthy rich and doesn't care. He is also retiring to enjoy his considerable Pfizer and Amazon shareholdings.