Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Annd9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529219#Comment_122529219

Have seen lots of videos with lads saying they are from Gaza . It's incredibly difficult to actually leave Gaza so I'd imagine the migrants see palestine flags everywhere and just assume Irish people will be more sympathetic towards them if they say Gaza.

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529295#Comment_122529295

Illegal immigrants lying?!?!?

Colour me surprised

MegamanBoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122528767#Comment_122528767

I portrayed these statistics in the same way you did reports about foreign people living in Denmark?

After that it's the same 'ol myths about unvetted males, unsustainable immigration… You're ideas about cultural segregation are at least presented in a someway novel fashion. Do you think people from cultures you deem dissimilar to our own should not come to live here in general, or only those who come to seek asylum? And what do you want to do about Irish people who might also be from, or identify as part of, these dissimilar cultures?

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529316#Comment_122529316

David McWilliams has written a lot of articles about this in the last year. But he suggests the main problem is not immigration or a growing population, but that Irish governments in general are terrible at long term planning and building infrastructure.

To identify immigration as the problem would be missing the point - even without it, Irish governments would still be useless at building infrastructure, housing, transport links and so on (witness the children's hospital fiasco and its costs).

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529126#Comment_122529126

We all know why some of them come to Ireland it's because of the very generous benefits and they can stay as long as they want in the country

Basically Welfare tourists

MegamanBoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529388#Comment_122529388

You had me right up until 'We all know'

thomas 123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529126#Comment_122529126

• the soft touch to entry
• The benefits
• Own door accommodation

Tenzor07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529219#Comment_122529219

You'd be correct, over 1 million Palestinians have Jordanian citizenship so can travel on the passport… though that would go missing when they arrive here..

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122528539#Comment_122528539

Do you not think that it’s being taken advantage of and being tuned into an industry by a lot of the the same connections that seem to profit from everything in Ireland. I find it difficult to believe there’s a genuine humanitarian motive behind helping these people. Or if there is the structure around it is the usual lining of pockets of the people with means rather than a genuinely thought out and planned approach to providing asylum to those who seek it.

We seem to struggle to provide a proper plan and process of execution for every big issue that we encounter in this country lately. Everything seems money driven to me.

MegamanBoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529824#Comment_122529824

I'm not so sure our asylum system, and it's European counterparts, is all that much about humanitarian principles as it is about trying to find practical solutions for all the people who are going to come here with or without it.

As for the huge profits being made from accommodation, to me that's just these government parties doing what they've done for decades, turning to often dysfunctional private markets.

10000maniacs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529043#Comment_122529043

Fianna Gael must have shares in that Trespass tent company.

1: Fund the NGO,

2: Buy the tents, ("We are so very pleased to do business with you Irish guys")

3: Give the tents to the migrants

4: Bulldoze the tents

5: GOTO 1

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530000#Comment_122530000

A merry go round of shitness

10000maniacs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530049#Comment_122530049

The tent situation on Grand Canal are just the atoms on the surface of this Iceberg.

If taxpayers knew the full extent of money and resources being squandered here, they would literally cry.

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530057#Comment_122530057

Lets have a think of it, all that's involved in the Grand Canal

Government Fund NGOs

NGOs provide tents

When the eye sore gets to much the Government send the heavies in to get rid of the tents

So this involves Waterway Ireland, Gardai and a trash compactor attending site

Tents are trashed (which is kind Ironic since the greens are in power…)

Waterway Ireland installs barriers destroying the area

and with each merry go around the area gets worse and worse.

The NGOs are the real winners in all of this and never want their gravy train to end

CollyFlower

It's very windy tonight.

Scar001

Another remote village getting fucked over.

No fear it would be converted back to a nursing home for our elderly.

https://www.live95fm.ie/news/live95-news/county-limerick-residents-to-meet-to-address-concerns-about-accomodating-asylum-seekers/

CollyFlower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530176#Comment_122530176

"Leftie"/NGO', John Lannon, the chief executive of migrant rights charity Doras said: “There is no need for communities to be fearful of asylum seekers arriving to live in a centre. They are just like the rest of us, but with one difference: they have had to leave their homes and their countries to find safety and protection. They just want to get on with their lives, start working or continue their education. They just want to bring their families up in a safe environment.”

Stop, just Stop!

Mr. teddywinkles

If the money runs out in this country and theres tax increases or services cutbacks

There'll have to be massive public backlash.

If not its time for the youth to leave in droves and never look back.

Theyd be wasted here.

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530183#Comment_122530183

Families he says, what families, the majority of them are single males. What we're seeing is an invasion of scammers and chancers. I'm sure there is the odd genuine case, but I'm extremely skeptical of most.

We need mass detention centres and only once they are proved to be genuine do they move onto an ipas centre, if not they're deported. To many do-gooder believing everything they're told and too many ngo's making money off this shitshow.

thomas 123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530260#Comment_122530260

There won’t be, there is no money according to the government, we have been keeping things tight(PAYE employees and public projects anyway) since the recession, remember pascals rainy day fund? Where is that now?

Squandering of public money on people not in genuine need(capped reasonably) of our assistance is a travesty in any economic climate.

batman_oh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530183#Comment_122530183

Bare faced liar and the same turds accusing everybody else of misinformation. The vast majority arriving at the moment as anybody who isn't full of crap can see are men chancing it

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530431#Comment_122530431

No, they are all fleeing war and persecution, did you not get the memo?

facehugger99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529219#Comment_122529219

Thankfully those lovable Palestinians have never caused any problems for host countries in the past.

Jordan probably very sad to see the back of them.

ArthurDayne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529052#Comment_122529052

Why aren't there ever threads on overpopulation then?

For whatever reason — this whole "overpopulation" theme is trotted out regularly on here despite the fact that refugees / asylum seekers traditionally make up a tiny fraction of our population and are not even a big proportion of our foreign-born population anyway. The enormous spike of Ukrainian refugees from 2022 onwards had a clear link to there being a war in Eastern Europe — a specific event.

It rings hollow to me when people speak about their concerns on overpopulation when that concern is only ever asserted in the specific context of refugees or migration more generally and almost always ignores the fact that from a population perspective we also have an outward flow of people thanks to the global migration system. You could more or less switch our entire immigrant / emigrant population around and you are still faced with a largely similar population.

It often just feels like the usual practice of constantly placing migrants at the forefront of society's ills and over-inflating their effect on things that are either (a) due to things that are far broader and more complex than simply migrants or (b) are things that people only ever seem to push as high priority issues when those issues can be linked in some tangential way to migrants, and which aren't pushed as high priority issues when the context is not a discussion on migration.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530749#Comment_122530749

Maybe they mean over population of town squares of people with nothing to do just hanging around, or over population of people in tents with nowhere to sh1t

rgossip30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530749#Comment_122530749

The number of Irish who leave and return only differs by 1-2 thousand in the past 5 years . The focus needs to be on irregular migration as its escalating rapidy 26k expected by years end not too long ago it was 3500 . The overspend on those who make false claims .

silverharp

Thanks Hazel and Simon et al, from the river to the sea Dublin 4 is (temporarily) free , all the chancers have been moved from the Grand Canal (again) , how long are the Americans staying for? lol

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532892#Comment_122532892

On route via a taxi i'm hearing…

Headshot

delete

thomas 123

what’s this about?