"Ammunition Factory"

otmmyboy2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120241126#Comment_120241126

I get it, normal there meaning relative, 10 for most rimfire rifles is pretty standard, 30 round mags are standard for AR, AK, VZ58, nearly every submachinegun is 30 or 32, the Calico, etc

I have zero doubt that the 30 rounds and over definition of "high capacity" will shift downwards also, but there it is.

Grizzly 45

HISTORICAL FUN FACT!!! Did you know that the reduced mag capacity idea came from a prominent gun manufacturer? We can thank William "Bill" Ruger Sr for this nonsense!

Ruger's letter to Congress On March 30, 1989

The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the possession of high-capacity magazines. By a simple, complete and unequivocal ban on large-capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining 'assault rifle' and 'semi-automatic rifles' is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item. A single amendment to Federal firearms laws could effectively implement these objectives.

Not that this worked in the US crime control bill, where Mr Klintoon banned both "assault rifles" and high-capacity magazines in 1994. Thankfully grandfathered by George Dubya a decade later, as it did precisely nothing to stop gun crime.

Ruger more than likely did this so his cash cow the Mini14 wouldn't be banned in any assault rifle ban either. Just one to think on if we hear that our own organisations in Ireland or all over are doing sellouts for whatever reason[s]. even gun makers will sell us out if it suits them.

judestynes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120246495#Comment_120246495

It was either reduce mag capacity or lose semi auto's in the States entirely.

Grizzly 45

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120247218#Comment_120247218

Was never going to happen,even back then before the AR15 became even more popular and in common usage,which now makes it a totally protected species under US law.If it was a sop to the anti-gun crowd it backfired...badly! As e seen in the crime control act where BOTh high capacity mags and "assault rifles" were banned for a decade.

Strange that even in states that restrict mag capacity like CA,NJ,etc. The mag capacity doesn't seem to stop these states exploding guncrime...It's almost as if criminals don't obey laws on mag capacity or anything else...

judestynes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120247908#Comment_120247908

Seriously lads, you all need to get it out of your heads that this is about gun crime. It isn't. If politicians actually wanted to reduce gun crime they'd do 1 of 2 things. 1. Legalize drugs. 2. Eliminate poverty. They've no interest in doing either of those 2 things .

Mag capacity limits are a reflection of how the pace of life has changed and it's changing faster than the establishment can keep up with and in places where firearms can be sourced far too easily tragedies are happening.

People like us know that reducing mag capacity won't make a blind bit of difference just as sticking security guards in schools hasn't made a difference. Ending this culture war nonsense so people aren't being radicalized and flipping their lids.. that will make a difference.

Anyway we're way off point. A bloke doing his mates a solid and reloading for them is the topic. In several conversations with several different people, reloading was on the table from AGS and refused by shooting representative bodies or individuals speaking for them. If we keep electing these numpties to represent us then we've only ourselves to blame.