Death of Nicola Bulley, Lancashire UK

Faugheen

The family should be made to explain why they told police to put out the information about her that they did.

Shameful carry on. The poor woman was never going to be able to defend herself and they just threw her under the bus.

RIP

jjj1988

point taken…However, none more speculative than “what a terrible accident”, would you agree? If looked at in a more logical perspective, then there are many more answers to be had and is my sole point! Where you have got me wrong is thinking amusement is my objective.

If cases like this didn’t interest people, then we wouldn’t have a good policeforce, your point I’m sure would be that they should only exclusively discusss and is where I disagree.

Mam of 4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120268138#Comment_120268138

The decision to release that information was made afaik , because some "newspapers" (dirt) were going to print those stories about NB , they had paid people for info/etc .

They didn't throw her under the bus.

greasepalm

RIP to family and friends to get this tragic news no iffs or butts and will let the investigation to get to the truth

chicorytip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120267944#Comment_120267944

He claims his instructions were to search the open water only. The police diving and ground search teams would bear responsibility for searching areas close to the riverbank, such as this section where her body was discovered. In mitigation, it would be difficult to see anything clearly through the vegetation and the body may only have floated to the surface shortly before it was spotted.

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120268158#Comment_120268158

Stop shouting!

limnam

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120267944#Comment_120267944

The reason they were not in his "Remit" was even though he was hired by the family. They took their instructions from the police who chose where in the water the search team searched.

Also the sonar is not capable of searching reeds.

What a bloody circus this has been.

On the face of it, it was almost a certainty that this unfortunate woman had entered the river. The saturation of media about her which I cannot comprehend was disgusting. I think about the multiples of people who disappear each day or enter the water somewhere and folks just get on with searching for them without all the bells and whistles.

Let's get a sense of perspective.

walterking

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120268020#Comment_120268020

Are you serious?

Absolutely nothing you have suggested has any factual basis whatsoever. Your is not just speculation but wild hypothesis that is fed from THICKtoc sleuths and gutter media

Here's fact - A body can be underwater for up to 4 weeks (wearing clothes and cold water elongate the process - naked and warm water would speed it up) and then as decomposing gasses take hold, it resurfaces. That's scientific FACT. There was a case of a missing person in North London from 21st Jan (hardly any ThickTok publicity as it was a male), they searched the canal several times and found nothing. Then last Thursday he was suddenly found floating in the canal. But no conspiracy theorists or ThickTok buffoons claiming this to be anything other than a personal tragedy, but the time between missing and the body floating was almost identical to Nicola Bulley. He was also fully clothed and the water was very cold.

So scientific FACT tells us the the timeline is well within the parameters and tidal flow would also mean the location is well within parameters.

walterking

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They DID! - The gutter media (Daily mail and Sun) had paid people money to give information of Ms Bulley's private life and they was about to publish their "scoops"

The family released the information so that these pariahs purporting to be "news"papers did not get their scoop. It is also the reason why the daily mail went on the attack against the police.

walterking

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120268158#Comment_120268158

Oh Boy.

the "specialist" who you, along with many THICKToc fools, seem to have put on a very very high pedesdal has been making excuses for the abject failure of his equipment.

First saying he would have done it differently if he thought she had purposely gone in (eh, that was the OBVIOUS scenario), then saying after the body is found that his remit did not include the reeds at the edge of the river (and the reeds are IN the river). The same fool was very categoric that because his equipment did not locate the body, that she "could not be in the river".

That same person just happened to have published a book a few weeks ago.

And you seem to think he is reliable in what he says? - Seriously?

PokeHerKing

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Wy do I get the feeling you wouldn't take an experts opinion when it comes to a vaccine the way you're taking this divers opinion.

I mean doctors can miss cancer in patients. Experts miss things all the time.

Let's entertain your madness for a minute.

Somebody known or unknown to nicola abducts her leaving no evidence or trace of their crime. Essentially getting away with it.

They then decide to place her back where she'll be found to make it look like suicide/accident even though they could have done this from the outset?

Without the hassle of storing her body amd also getting it back undetected? Also maintaining her body in water this entire time to replicate the river?

I mean a conspiracy theory is interesting if it stands up to some scrutiny. This is just the ramblings of mad man/woman.

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120267826#Comment_120267826

no you dont feel for the family , and yes you and people like you are causing harm

you think this is a soap opera for your own entertainment . you are and should be dismissed because of those and other factors.

your a bad person if you think your entitled to know every thing that's happened here .

id tell you to be ashamed of yourself but you would have to have shame first .

jjj1988

Doesn’t he work for the southern police as a specialist. Not to mention 3 weeks of diving in a river that you many a man can run and jump across. the river had next to know current hence why they didn’t have a large surface radius.

ratracer

You obviously know very little about mental health, and how people with suicidal ideation might behave, or how police search operations are carried out, or how/ why police reveal certain information to the general public. You think you are entitled to every detail of this case, but you are not, it is absolutely none of your business. I get that you can be curious, but Don’t put so much faith in that diver lad, he has behaved extremely unprofessionally in all aspects of this case, and as others have said his main aim here was to promote his book. This was just a fortunate case of events for him!

You are way out of line with your take on this.

greasepalm

Interesting video with Doug Bishop as he does sonar search and recoveries and gives his views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELsgavn0Q14

jjj1988

https://twitter.com/gbnews/status/1627798612892864512?s=21 2:20mins. She was not there… The sheepish narrow minded mentality to try and paint me as all as anyone who doesn’t form the same opinion of you.

I’m sure your opinion is 100 percent correct and the specialist dive team are completely wrong.

🐏

Be right back

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This man needs to stop. Like I said before he's only trying to save face. And to be honest, I am not sure what you are trying to hint at. It seems to be a tragic incident.

jjj1988

we know it was a tragic incident. She didn’t teleport from point a to b. She would have drifted for 20 odd days in a location different each time whilst overhead scans/searches were taking place. Although not impossible, in-line With beyond belief

ratracer

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Why are you putting so much faith in every single word he says, and none in what the police are saying?

Be right back

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Isn't it possible that she went further along the river walk, leaving the dog behind and entered the river near to where she was found?

Curse These Metal Hands

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What a weird take.

jjj1988

He is as good as the police, he is contracted to them and not his first rodeo. It’s not necessarily him but he’s and police recorded the scans. She was not there on the bottom when they searched daily, does that not simmer some suspicion that more is to be heard.

I’m a person of logic. The opinion that she was missed all that time in a stream like river is staggering. She was found in the perfect deposition site. Is there 0% of you that would consider an alternative to your current opinion?

anewme

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The family don’t owe anyone an explanation.

No sympathy for a grieving family who have lost a loved one and had their personal business dissected by low level gossips.

Victim blaming at its finest.

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120273365#Comment_120273365

I’m not blaming any victim.

It was a disgrace how badly her case was handled and had all of her personal struggles put out in the public domain, by the request of her family.

How on Earth is that acceptable?

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120273657#Comment_120273657

This has been said numerous times - someone sold the information to a tabloid, that would have involved an exaggerated story and upsetting headline. The information was released to stop this exposure.

The blame lies with whichever lowlife spoke to reporters, the social media clowns filming at the scene and the armchair detectives who invented ridiculous theories. Look at this thread, some are still at it.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120273677#Comment_120273677

That was nearly 3 weeks after she went missing, the police only confirmed then that she was vulnerable before releasing all the personal details the next day.

If they engaged in the normal level of transparency from the off, got the family on board fully and briefed more the likelihood is the 3 ring circus doesn't happen.

The clowns certainly sped up the size of the snowball but the police certainly played their part in creating it.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120273882#Comment_120273882

The police confirmed she was vulnerable, that's standard practice that happens here too.

From that the gossips took over and spread ridiculous "theories". The fault doesn't lie with the police.

The statement from Nicola's family after her body was found criticised the media and the speculation about her partner. Their hand was forced and their 9 year old daughter is old enough to read and hear her father was labelled an abuser and murderer.

Deeec

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The the way police bought it to public attention was shameful though - the wording they used was 'significant issues with alcohol' - did they really have to use the word significant. They made her sound like a raging alcoholic which she was not! The family should be very annoyed. Very basic information should have been made public at the start to let interested parties know that this is more than likely a suicide - media and all would have left alone. Suicides happen every day of the week and do not make public news! The police are to blame for all the media and online scrutiny this case received

I listened to a retired policeman talk on radio earlier this week about the case - he was very criticial of the investigation and the way it was handled.

Boggles

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She went missing on the 27th, the police said she was vulnerable on the 15th of February.

That's not standard practice.

You release that information straight away with the family on board the circus doesn't happen.

A quote from the partner or parents, "If you are watching this Nicola, please come home we love you and will get you help".

I do have the upmost sympathy for the family, they are victims too, but it would be dishonest not to say they also played their part.

The polices main remit is to find the person as quickly as possible by getting the public on side. Transparency to a degree. You don't have to give the minut details. The dangerously simple who partook in the circus are a cretinous bunch of fúck heads, but unfortunately there is no eradicating them.

Look how the case of  Laurel Aldridge is being handled if you want an example of standard practice.