LGFA welcome Transgender players.
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I think the association that they pay membership to become a member of should have asked them , before they passed the decision...
The association didnt allow the ladies i coach make a decision on their own health and safety......
On here ,Im not speaking for any girl that i have coached, im speaking for me.... MY opinion.
"Also, since you're involved in both so indepthly, you should easily be able to provide a source that says camoige is much bigger than ladies football. Still waiting on that one."
As i said before, I did not say Camogie was bigger - i said that my personal viewpoint, from experience that the LGFA were the least well run out of the 3 organisations - You countered by saying the LGFA had more members , without providing any evidence ..
Keep clutching though.🙄
Can you tell me why the IRFU, FINA, and the UCI (to name just a few) wont allow transgender competitors in female events ?
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"I'll clarify my position just so we are clear, I don't think a man should have the authority to tell women what she can and can't do with her body. I respect a women's right to bodily automny and I respect their right to make a decision on what is best for their own health and safety."
Lad , thats mad .............. Your grasp of what is being said is not the best i think
WTF has that got to do with what we are saying here?? It seems you are on some crusade to paint it as , us that dont agree with you are denying someones human rights ... You seem to have a big problem with men having an opinion on this
Has there been one MALE on here that has denounced anyones right to transgender?? NO THEY DIDNT...
I dont know what you have been reading on here, or what you want to see when you are reading... BUT NOT 1 PERSON on here has said anything contradictory to what you posted?? (in bold above)
The problem that some parents, and some players and some coaches will have is what been discussed here.
Transgender women have no place on the field of play in a Ladies Gaelic Football match, or Camogie, or soccer, cycling , swimming etc etc....
Thats it. Thats the point.. No place. Ask FINA, UCI, IRFU, FAI etc etc
But i suppose im male, wtf would i know.....
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A reply from the LGFA :
"We acknowledge receipt of your email. The LGFA, as a diverse and inclusive organisation, has given significant consideration to introducing a Transgender Policy, on the request of our units. This process ensured that the LGFA complies with all of its legal obligations under European and Irish law, in particular, the Equal Status Acts and the Gender Recognition Act 2015.
In its consultation process, the LGFA considered its legal obligations and its aims and objectives as set out in the Official Guide, in the development of this policy, whilst also taking into account international best practice, including the current positions of international team sports, amateur and professional.
The policy was put before the LGFA's Central Council last week, the supreme governing body of the association, with over 80 attendees present. The policy was debated and ultimately adopted with overwhelming approval.
Transgender women who wish to play Ladies Gaelic Football are now required to undergo a thorough and comprehensive application process. Furthermore, the LGFA is acutely aware that this area continues to rapidly evolve and undertakes to review this policy on an ongoing basis."
Regards,
But, With NO imput from players ..
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"It’s hard to see the rational basis for these concerns when they’ve never restricted players by size or weight or strength before."
Really?
How other sports have been dealing with the transgender question
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/arid-40937567.html
RUGBY -
"The IRFU references ‘recent peer-reviewed research’ which it says ‘provides evidence that there are physical differences between those people whose sex was assigned as male and those as female at birth, and advantages in strength, stamina and physique brought about by male puberty (which) are significant and retained even after testosterone suppression’. The English RFU recently
decided to no longer allow transgender women compete in female contact leagues. Sporting organisations, to one extent or another, have been considering their position in the area and formulating a position for several years."
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FINA, swimming’s world governing body, has a policy which states transgender women can only compete in women’s competitions if ‘they can establish to FINA’s comfortable satisfaction that they have not experienced any part of male puberty beyond Tanner Stage 2 (of puberty) or before age 12, whichever is later’.
CYCLING -
Cycling’s governing body, UCI, has updated its rules and brought in stricter eligibility criteria including lowering the maximum plasma testosterone level permitted for transgender female athletes.
Yeh so size or weight doesnt matter ??
Transgender inclusion in Women’s Sport – July 2022 - Women In Sport
https://womeninsport.org/statement/transgender-inclusion-in-womens-sport-july-2022/
"It concluded that the inclusion of trans women in female categories in most sports could not be balanced with fairness, and in some sports, safety. "
On average, compared to age-matched females at any given body weight, adult males have:
- ⚬ 40- 50% greater upper limb strength
- ⚬ 20-40% greater lower limb strength
- ⚬ 12kg more skeletal muscle mass
At full growth females are an average of 5-6 inches shorter than males. NHS 2018 states average young adult heights in England as:
- ⚬ Female 5ft 4 1/2 inches
- ⚬ Male 5ft 10 inches
- ⚬ 50% of males are taller than some 97% of females [when plotted across population]
NO, NO they dont according to these organisations, and the LGFA will see sense when the players let them know.
"You obviously don't like that fact, tough. Get over it. As I sadlid, I'm sure you've handed in your notice as a ladies football coach and will never be involved in the sport again, everyone's a winner etc."
You are a childish person, making irrelevant childish posts. 🙄
Do you have any connections to sport yourself?
Any daughter playing sport?
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