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Tear in Engine Bay Hose

  • 04-03-2023 4:09pm
    #1
    BornSkippy
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    When I opened the bonnet today I found a tear in the wide gauge hose leading from the cylinders to what i assume is the exhaust.

    I'll try to attach photos.

    It seems tape was previously placed over the tear, unknown to me.

    The car has been running fine, including today.

    Can i drive it until dropping it into a mechanic on Monday?

    Should i try to tape over the tear in the interim, and if so what type of tape would be safe and suitable?


    The car is a 2007 Honda Accord Petrol.

    Any advice is much appreciated.



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  • #2
    Dirty Nails
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Dirty Nails


    Safe to drive,tear off that tape thats there in case it sucks it in. If you really want to tape it again use duct tape or silage bale tape. Dont use parcel tape.



  • #3
    BornSkippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭BornSkippy


    Thanks RustyNail.

    Is there any risk of poisoning from untreated exhaust fumes coming into the cabin as a result of the tear?


    Could the fumes in the hose be sufficiently hot to cause duct tape glue to combust and cause a fire?



  • #4
    FishOnABike
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    That looks like the air intake hose btween the air filter and the engine.

    The exhaust is the four pipes at the front of the engine.

    I'd use some wide heavy duty tape to wrap around the split area, making sure there's no loose tape (old or new) or the loose material that might get drawn into the air intake. You may be ok leaving it as it is until you get to the garage but air filters are there for a reason.

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  • #5
    smuggler.ie
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    I would not drive with this for long. Intake has no filter now - all dust/debris get sucked in

    history of boards 2021




  • #6
    Neilw
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313865#Comment_120313865

    That’s the intake manifold at the front, not the exhaust. With the tear in the hose unfiltered air is being pulled into your engine, dirt and dust, if something like a tiny piece of grit was pulled in it could ruin your engine by scoring the cylinder bores.

    Go and buy a new hose.



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  • #7
    mk7r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭mk7r


    This is common and those hoses are unfortunately pretty eye watering price wise



  • #8
    BornSkippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭BornSkippy


    Thanks everyone for your responses, all very helpful.

    Is changing one of these hoses a fairly easy DIY job?

    I looked at a video or two on Youtube and it seemed do-able.

    What's the best way to source a replacement hose?

    I couldn't find any on the likes of Mr Auto and the Ebay parts may be spurious. Maybe I'm using the wrong name to search for them.



  • #9
    Neilw
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320017#Comment_120320017

    Honda main dealer for the hose is your best bet, looks like a 10 minute job to replace it.



  • #10
    smuggler.ie
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320017#Comment_120320017

    Check tube, there is several videos, there might be variants where air sensor located. 10min job alright if you got few tools

    history of boards 2021




  • #11
    mk7r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭mk7r


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120320213#Comment_120320213

    They are around 350 euro from honda 😬 hard to find spurious too



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  • #12
    Neilw
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    Cheaper than an engine rebuild.



  • #13
    Hellrazer
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120321487#Comment_120321487

    By the looks of it that was taped a long time ago.And has probably lasted years - previous owner didnt want to spend 350 on a hose either!!!

    Its a really common fault on them. But 350 is nuts. Take it off, glue it back together at the seam using the clear tec- 7 and then duct tape around the repair - I guarantee you it will last years if done right. Make sure its clean before you glue it.

    I did a friends one like this 6 years ago and its still going strong. I wouldnt be paying 350 for a hose from Honda.



  • #14
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Here's one new from main dealer in UK, £75. Pre-Brexit I have dealt with these and they are good, they still ship Worldwide, duty on top might be another €20 and then whatever cost to ship. Worth pricing at dealers here too.

    Personally unless you are going to sell the car in the next few months I would go with new as the rubber in them perishes over time and fitting one that's on the way out could result in another tear before it's on.

    https://www.coxmotorparts.co.uk/honda-shop/genuine-honda-accord-2-0-petrol-air-flow-tube-pipe-2003-2008/




  • #15
    mk7r
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭mk7r


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323276#Comment_120323276

    It happens when people change the air filters and pull the top of the air filter housing, flexing this hose slightly as you would on most marques to remove the air filter. On the Honda you need to make sure you fully remove it as they made these hoses so stiff 🙄

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323303#Comment_120323303

    Be a little bit careful, there are quite a few variations of this hose, all just slightly different but they all have the same problem



  • #16
    BornSkippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭BornSkippy


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    Thanks AtlanticDawn.

    That part you linked was delivered quickly and seems genuine.

    About £100 all in.

    Fitting it was grand, I found this video helpful.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6buSSnQ4U


    Tape over the gap worked fine for a week.

    I ordered a cheaper non OEM part before, which hasn't arrived yet. If anyone finds themselves in the same boat, drop me a line and I can give it to you for free. I'm in Dublin.



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