EV Newbie- charging

chiefwiggum

Hi there. We got or Kia EV6 gt-line a few days ago. Waiting on home charger to be installed (approx 2-3 weeks)

So far we've been using fast chargers . Went to applegreen today and used one of their 180 kw chargers. I was only getting 56kw charging speed..should I be getting more?

tommythecat

Make sure you set the fast charger as your destination in your navigation on the car. The car will then preheat the battery in colder weather(Preconditioning) and you will see faster times. It needs about 40kms to preheat so you will need to drive for a bit.

You should see speeds more like 125 then.

In summer Preconditioning shouldn't be necessary and you will get faster charging anyway.

chiefwiggum

Thanks Tommy.. will give that a go next time.

KCross

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058286955/ev-newbie-charging

What state of charge was the car at when you started the session?

you don’t get high rates at high SoC

Gumbo

It depends on your state of charge, battery temp etc

Very few achieve the higher rates, other than tesla consistently, for example, Model 3 hit 248kw today I seen.

But i will ask, why are you using Fast Chargers while waiting on your Home Charger? Use the granny Cable, it will be half the price.

chiefwiggum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120316613#Comment_120316613

Doesn't have the 3 pin lead with it..should it? It's an ex demo so I wonder was it taken out. Also I think there should be a v2l connector but no sign of that either

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120317018#Comment_120317018

Should have it unless Kia screw their customers and don’t give it on the EV6?

I deffo got them and a type 2 cable with the eNiros’s.

Paul Kiernan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120317018#Comment_120317018

They should certainly supply the 3-pin charger. Not sure about the V2l! I'd ring them and kick up a stink query it.

chiefwiggum

Sales man text me to say. The v2l must have been misplaced(they'll supply another) but the 3 pin cable has been discontinued due to kia saying its a potential fire hazard?? Anyone else heard this?

Paul Kiernan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120317252#Comment_120317252

It sounds like a bit of a cop out! Problem may be that many people use them with an extension lead stuck out the window that might not handle in excess of 2kw. But the charger itself should have no problem if plugged directly into a modern good quality socket. Both the charger and the car can be set to reduced current if overheating is an issue. I used to use mine with a crappy old extension lead and it was fine at 6 or even 8 amps.

tommythecat

Well that's nonsense. I picked up my brand new EV6 in January and it came with: Granny cable, regular type 2 cable and the VTL so you should be supplied all of them.

eltoastero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120317252#Comment_120317252

Utter nonsense (regarding the fire hazard - otherwise we all should have been contacted for a replacement).

Buying new I would expect the 3 pin to be included (as it's part of the product spec sheet), but buying ex-demo you're buying a "used" car so the seller can omit something from the sale (unless they explicitly told you it was included). Bit scabby of them to remove it intentionally though.

regarding your charging, as others have said, it's likely a combination of battery % being too high, or battery temperature being too low or the applegreen chargers not supplying the rated 180kW (see the applegreen thread on boards). Best bet (to check max charging power) would be to hit an IONITY charger on a warm day with about 20% SoC - it might start at 120kW or so but it should jump to 170kW then 220kW (ish) as the battery warms.

Do you mind answering how much an ex-demo EV6 GT-Line set you back (assuming a year old)?

Mr Q

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120317252#Comment_120317252

Where are you based, if you want a loan of a charger until you get your proper one installed I have a spare.

Better than spending on the high fast charger rates.

chiefwiggum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120321354#Comment_120321354

Appreciate that greatly.. very generous of you but we'll manage till home charger goes in. Thanks a million