Why wont die hard GAA fans admit football these days is muck?

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120392357#Comment_120392357

Good man.. funnel them all back and only engage when the opposition cross your own 45.

Can be effective Im told….

megadodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120390562#Comment_120390562

A perfect example of an utterly idiotic post!

Maybe we should stop the players running too, to give the opposition a chance to catch up with them?

Or maybe when you receive the ball, hold it out on whatever side the opposition is on and let him thump it out of your hands. Of course, he'll then be obliged to do the same thing when he gathers the ball, and then you, and then him.....

This thread is even worse than pubtalk.

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120392101#Comment_120392101

Was it yeah? I played gaelic football for years, I want to see it thrive but I don't like how it is played these days, most games are a really hard watch.

I see Lee Keegan (one of the best footballers from the last 30 years) agrees with me.

https://extra.ie/2023/03/23/sport/gaa/lee-keegan-fears-safety-first-league

dxhound2005

That was a great stat he came up with, Mayo have scored 25% of the goals in the Division. Here's my stat, they scored 44.44% of those goals in one game. Their goal tally in six games 0,1,1,1,2,4. A real goal machine indeed.

StupidLikeAFox

Football is too much like basketball these days. We need to forbid players going back after they enter the opponents half and also introduce a shot clock. Put the goals on top of the goal posts while we are at it sure

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120393918#Comment_120393918

Calm down, my friend, are you perfectly happy with how Gaelic Football is played these days?

flasher0030

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120394027#Comment_120394027

Are you saying that 9 goals in 6 games is not a lot? It doesn't matter if 4 goals are scored in one game, 9 goals in 6 games is a very good return of goals. Teams are not going to score a large ration of goals in every game. He provided a relevant statistic over a period of time i.e. the duration of the national league to date. You're jut providing a statistic of one point in time i.e. the amount of goals in the Tyrone match. That type of statistic is useless, as it does not provide details of any type of pattern.

dxhound2005

It's not enough outside the average to be worthwhile selecting as a stat. And the number of goals is not a reliable pointer to League position. Last year Mayo had 6 goals from 7 games, Monaghan who finished below them had 7 goals.

Also this year Mayo's 4 wins is bettered by 5 other counties, and matched by 5 more. If they had scored one more point against Galway and Armagh, that would have been more significant to their success, than the 4 goals against Tyrone.

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120395380#Comment_120395380

Let’s get back on topic.

Are you happy with the way Gaelic Football is being played today?

dxhound2005

I'm still analyzing that Lee Keegan article. I think it is only right to give it due consideration, seeing that it has been introduced into the discussion.

megadodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120394404#Comment_120394404

Yes I am.

I attend games on a very regular basis and the only thing I'm unhappy with is the one or two morons shouting "kick the f*ckin ball, will ya" simply because they're following some clueless narrative from the local pub.

Another clown recently kept shouting "will ha hit him will ya" every time one of the opposition had the ball. Thankfully our team only obliged him once and ended up giving away an utterly pointless free in scorable range.

I wouldn't be surprised if both those idiots were lurking here.

Brendan Bendar

Well done, well done…

Brendan Bendar

Excellent game between Galway and Kerry today….. very watchable.

Credit where credit is due.

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120403087#Comment_120403087

Apart from all the time wasting in the end by Galway.

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120403519#Comment_120403519

Hmmmm up to Kerry to challenge them then?

I think it was only basically in injury time where they went into handpass mode.

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120403519#Comment_120403519

True, you never see Kerry time wasting during games when they’re winning.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120380731#Comment_120380731

The debate has a wider scope than just that. It’s in fact not a dull borefest, the opposite.

go down the list of all Ireland finals. The number of scores these days is multiples in some cases of what you’d get years ago. So how is that more boring…? It’s not.

faster, more skillful, more exciting passages of play, more points, more goals, more ingenuity and creativity…. Far better ‘watch’.

far better skillsets, athletes and tactics on the field and sideline.

problem is as was always going to happen… the gap between the really good teams and the rest of the chasing pack has widened considerably.

THAT is the problem a lot of people have….but what to do about it ? Nothing ! It’s competitive sport….the onus is on those behind to catch the leaders, not for the association to nobble the leaders….

there seems to be a want to hoof it up Hail Mary style, which to me isn’t anything accurate or accomplished..

the game has evolved through smarter people being involved… mind the ball, be patient, encompass professional levels of fitness that’s measured by sports doctors etc….the game has never been faster.

yet, some people decry this.

football isn’t muck, more scores, more vision, multiples faster, more fluid tactics, more clever players…

people want it more competitive ? Catch up, don’t bring down.

evolving tactics have been a facet of every sport, cricket now, even tests are unrecognisable to what they were in the 80’ & ‘90’s

its less competitive too, but the onus is on those playing catchup to adapt and overcome… not for the taking down of anyone.

equalising has to happen by the virtue of the opponent being as good.

Treble double

Cahir O'Kanes article "Sports Science has ruined sport" hits the nail firmly on the head. Every team ball sport is unwatchable now.

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121340176#Comment_121340176

Really? Soccer isn't unwatchable, or basketball even Rugby.

Treble double

Erra they are, you are only blinded by the hype generated around professional sport to create revenue

pgj2015

Thanks for telling me how I feel about things. If I didnt enjoy those sports, I wouldn't watch them.

thesultan

While football us generally very hard to watch ,what do players playing get much enjoyment of it..

1373

I'd be on the " football is utter sh1t today " side . My own club are an embarrassment with the way crawl up the field, passing backwards at every opportunity. Two things I used to love with football was a man running and rounding a defender and long speculative balls into the square, both are only a memory in my club for some bizarre reasons. Who's to blame, well its got to be the players. Any decent outfit would tell a coach to fxck off if they didn't agree with this tactics

Brendan Bendar

hopefully some coach with a full baallsac will blow a hole in this possession football stuff.

Who is brave enough?

megadodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121347467#Comment_121347467

What a great idea !!!!

Instead of giving the ball to a teammate - give the ball to the opposition !!!

I can't believe nobody thought of this before !!!

1373

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121348119#Comment_121348119

OK smartass answer me this . A team are losing a match by 3 points and having played the total puke possession game for 67 minutes realise that they're on the way out of the championship. Then the miraculous transformation takes place, they now realising that they need a few scores in a hurry give up on their long loved possession game and start kicking the ball in to the danger area . So answer me this, why is it the right type of game now but wasn't for 67 minutes

thinkabouit

No offside line but the game is played like it has an offside line.

Treble double

I'm hoping that a brave coach with original thinking can come up with a game plan that involves kicking long and often into well populated attacking half of the pitch. There is a lack of original thinking in Gaa coaching and it is very much copycat stuff. McGuinness was the last man to come up with a very different way of playing, maybe he can be the man again and come up with a gameplan that involves swamping the attacking half of the pitch instead the defensive half.

1373

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121348912#Comment_121348912

?????

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121348119#Comment_121348119

No, my friend, prevent the opposition from giving the ball to their teammates.

Whats your challenge I’d like to know?