BMW i5

yllw.ldbttr

Expected official launch in October.

A decent chunk of former 5 Series owners went for the i4 as a short term step until the i5 launch.

What do people think, will it be as successful as the 5 Series has been in Ireland?

Probably looking at the bones of 100k for the i5 M Sport, might be a bridge too far for most as there will be a significant gap between petrol/diesel versions and the BEV version.

https://www.carwow.co.uk/bmw/5-series/news/5451/new-bmw-5-series-saloon-price-specs-release-date

Orebro

Photocopier salesmen rejoice, your electric 5 serious is almost here!

AidenL

I had the email today also.

carsfan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058288457/bmw-i5

I expect this car to be successful but nothing like what the previous generation of 5’s were. It will be simply too expensive. The regular 5 series next generation will be the seller here.

the phev version is the one that will do most business if it’s appreciably cheaper than the i5

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120365612#Comment_120365612

Looking at donedeal the cheapest brand new EQE 300 Mercedes is 86k and the cheapest E Class 220D is 72k. They are completely different cars though whereas the i5 and 5 series are apparently much closer to each other. And neither of the Mercedes would be the model I'd be looking to buy if I was in the market. Don't see many EQE on the roads at all, but it is ugly on the outside for sure. Only saw 2 as far as i remember.

I presume the new 5 series phev in msport will be 75k+ compared to 90k+ for a similarly styled i5 meaning a real return to them bring premium, low volume cars and a rare enough sight like they were here until around the year 2000.

That said, I had an e39 2001 530i msport with a new price of 71k 22 years ago and a 2006 e60 523i msport with a new price of 67k 17 years ago (mostly made up of horrendous vrt rates) so there are always buyers, i picked them both up for peanuts in 2008 and 2012....pity those days of cheap used cars are gone.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120365699#Comment_120365699

It still amazes me to see how cheap used ICEs are on auto trader NI or UK compared to this country. It a wonder how anyone buys used EVs there given the current price differential

unkel

I'm a BMW fan. I really want to like it. But the design is meh and if a base spec one is going to cost almost as much as a Porsche Taycan, then BMW is in trouble.

carsfan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120366378#Comment_120366378

No fear of the base i5 coming close to a Porsche Taycan in price especially as Porsche have announced there will be significant price rises coming.

The i5 willl compete with Mercedes eqe and Audi A6 e tron

Porsche Will Significantly Increase Its Prices To Sustain High Profits (msn.com)

UhOh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120367199#Comment_120367199

I’ll most likely be going with the i5 next if these planned Porsche price increases hit the Taycan. Rumours for the i5 are an eDrive40, xDrive40 and M50 variant, saloon & touring.

brownej

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120386486#Comment_120386486

I keep seeing an M60 mentioned with the i5. Whether thats wishful thinking, we shall see.

ELM327

If there's a touring I'm in

Love me a good touring. My dream car is an e61 m5, and I regret the day I passed on buying one for relatively cheap a few years ago

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120386747#Comment_120386747

One of the few affordable family supercars of all time. The engine is just magnificent. But even if the maintenance, tax and running costs were not an issue, could you live long time with that dreadful gearbox? And having owned similarly fast EVs, could you live again with the low torque at idle (even from a 5l V10 racing engine)?

I don't think I could. And please don't tell that judge Zaidan how fast I drove in one on Irish roads 😂

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120387088#Comment_120387088

Wouldnt be daily driving it at this stage tbh. Had my S type jag V6 delivered last night and took it for a spin. EVs have spoilt my perception of speed so any fossil fuel car (obviously with some exceptions) feels sluggish by comparison.

I think there will be a captive market for a well priced I5. They are canning a lot of ICE model BMWs in the UK and elsewhere, I reckon a lot of folks who may have bought a non base 5'er in the past may be swayed to an i5 if the price is right. Not your 520d buyer and not your M5 buyer but the chap who buys a 530d for instance.

With recent BMWs being so ugly, I actually like the I4 and I7 styling, I think an i5 could actually look nice too. If they bring that out here before my X plaid and there's an M variant like the I4 M50 it could be a decision.

carsfan2

First drive: 2023 BMW i5 prototype | Autocar

AidenL

Teaser released.

Seems official reveal will be on 24th May. 590 bhp on Boost for 10 seconds on the M60.

The First-Ever All-Electric BMW i5 Teaser | BMW USA - YouTube

carsfan2

BMW i5 - Changing lanes with a head movement | Highway Assist Level 2+ - YouTube

UhOh

It’ll be interesting to see how heavy this is. The i4 is a bit of a porker, even for an EV. i5 will obviously be a bigger car so could be up near 2500kg

AidenL

Leaked pictures…..

https://g60.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30140764&postcount=1

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614473#Comment_120614473

Loads of reviews on YT already too.

Oafley Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614485#Comment_120614485

Any links, can’t find any myself.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120614637#Comment_120614637

https://youtu.be/CG18x7i0rwI

This guy has a few

AidenL

https://g60.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30157324&postcount=209

Full reveal at 1pm today. I’m looking forward to this.

Buddy Bubs

Where could a person watch the reveal? Looking forward to it too, looks great in that link above, classic bmw looks rather than some of the questionable looking stuff lately.

AidenL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633833#Comment_120633833

Link to the launch:

The Digital World Premiere of the new BMW i5 - YouTube

digiman

Looking forward to seeing this too, I kind of hope it’s not too good though, really can’t be changing the car again or will be getting divorced 😂

AidenL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633910#Comment_120633910

Same here. I have spent so much doing up our house lately, I wanted a year to recover finances - but if the M60 is reasonable money - I actually think it could be an amazing car - I might be drawn to order. My current 530e X Drive is Jan 2021 new, only 32k km up to date - so loan is up in Jan 24 - could be good timing.

But, I usually would avoid buying a car in first years run - I see the Volvo EX90 is going to be delayed 6-9 months with software issues for example - as I prefer to not be a beta tester.

I was looking at X5 50e, the iX40 and the i5 - I think of the three, the i5 might do myself and the Mrs nicely. Don't need the SUV space, and I have a commercial Kuga for work. I know they say saloons are dead, but I still think they are a nice sporty drive, and probably more efficient in electric versions.

UhOh

Apparently these are leaked from the configurator - not so sure about the rear if this is real

brownej

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634011#Comment_120634011

I think you might be disappointed on the "reasonable money" front.

BMW have completely lost the run of themselves. The i4 M50 is in porsche taycan territory with any kind of spec added to it. The i5 M60 will be more expensive again.

carsfan2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634011#Comment_120634011

I’ll make a prediction that an i5 msport 40 model will be mid 80’s and the m60 about 105/110k when they are launched in Ireland.

any less would pleasantly surprise me.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634413#Comment_120634413

Add at least 5-10k to both of those. The i4 is already that price and the i5 is a price bracket above the 4

unkel

Base i4 is €61k, M-sport 2k more

I'd expect a base i5 to be in the very early 80s. Obviously cruise control + €1k, adaptive cruise + €3k, indicators +€2k, USB port +€1k, aircon + €3k, etc., etc. 😂

September1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634741#Comment_120634741

Some of this options are nice, but there is no need indicators in BMW.

UhOh

The German BMW site is listing the i5 from €70200. i4 base price there is €56500. Anyone fancy doing the man maths to estimate the Irish pricing? 75ish?

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634741#Comment_120634741

Thats the poverty spec 35/40 though. Cant see there being an equivalent in the i5 but could be wrong. Look at the i7, theres no poverty spec it starts at the 50.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634806#Comment_120634806

One could argue all i4 are poverty spec 😂

bbari

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634805#Comment_120634805

i4 here is about c. 9% higher than German BMW (56K v 61K). Based on the same %, i5 will start from €76K.

carsfan2

Here's our first look at the new BMW i5 - YouTube

BMW i5 is new electric 5 Series - car and motoring news by CompleteCar.ie

90k for the i5 here!

71k for 520i

UhOh

€120k for the M60 - good luck with that!

digiman

Prices in this article, €119k for m60, €90k for 40 and a 520i is €70k. So probably up in €130k when you add a few packs to the m60. Out of my price range so probably just as well, will encourage me to keep my i4 for much longer now!!

Initial quick look and I do like it, but would want the m60 version

https://www.theaa.ie/blog/new-bmw-5-series-on-sale-in-ireland-in-october-from-e69850/

ELM327

I wouldnt be interested in the non m60 version, and 120k is mid spec taycan money so not interested.

digiman

Yeah, I’d be the same, and if I was going to spend that kind of money I’d probably rather go for a Etron GT RS.

ELM327

Unless they made an M5 branded EV then I'd happily pay 120k for it. 120k as you point out is also RS etron GT money, in addition to mid spec taycan.

AidenL

Is still think the M60 would be worth buying, more space available and more practical.

carsfan2

Price is slightly higher than I predicted alright.

also no 520d in Ireland. The 3 series is basically in the price slot the 5 once occupied.

I’m very glad I got my i4 m50 for the money I paid now. New car prices truly are ridiculous.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634687#Comment_120634687

So I was bang on for once!

unkel

70k for a 520i is even more absurd than 90k for an i5 😂

bbari

When will it be up on the configurator to see whats included in 90k or 119k?

Theboinkmaster

It's on the Swedish configurator but not Ireland? will be interested to see packs, extras etc.

brownej

Its linked on the UK configurator but its not working, keeps giving errors. Must be overloaded.

bbari

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120635566#Comment_120635566

working for me, perhaps try a different browser.

carsfan2

You can build it on the UK configurator which is same spec as us.

Looks like the standard wheels are too small. Needs the m sport pro pack. Harman kardon speakers, memory seats all standard.