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Have we reached “peak podcast”?

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’d listen to Theo von all day 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭megaten


    Used to listen to a lot of them pre pandemic but not so much anymore. Only listen to In our time which is a radio program and one or two f1 podcasts. I wouldn't say we've hit peak podcast yet because I still struggle to find interesting ones to listen to.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He took too many of them anyway because he has now ventured into "they're poisoning our food" territory.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Maybe listen to the good ones


    ah I’m being a dick, it’s all subjective. I do find the podcast comedy is moving ahead of mainstream promotion which would explain comedians selling out the arena without promotion

    before the boards upgrade every event in the 3 arena would have a thread

    i do take exception to you mentioning Tate and Rogen in the same sentence though

    rogen is the man supporting comedians and providing the infrastructure for many of them and has opened a huge comedy venue which promotes fair play for the acts

    Tate is an alleged twisted perverted sex criminal that takes money from kids and fills their heads up with bullshit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I never heard of "peak paperback books" or "peak newspaper articles".

    The podcast is just another form of media.

    Let them all do their thing and pick the ones you want to listen to.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    I think we need to agree to disagree regarding Rogan; he has defended Tate and he has spread a lot of untruths regarding the covid vaccines hiding behind the shield of "just asking questions" or "I'm just a comedian I don't know anything." He also has a tendency to platform cranks, grifters, and quacks on his programme.

    That wasn't a problem for me personally until it became the most-listened to broadcast in the world. I've always maintained that he has a responsibility to filter out bullsh!t when he has the biggest audience ever and he absolutely refuses to live up to that responsibility.

    It's ironic because he refers to exercising as "conquering your inner bitch," yet he has consistently refused to look himself in the mirror and ask himself if he is being responsible when he promotes pyramid schemers or downplays Andrew Tate's hideous shenanigans. There is a squealing inner bitch there just begging to be conquered and he absolutely refuses.

    That being said, if you like Rogan then enjoy. No skin off my nose.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, but there’s lots of failed authors, wannabe DJs working in other jobs, failed newspapers, and disastrous attempts at launching TV news channels.

    With podcasts there’s just too many boring and badly produced ones, and you’d wonder with advertising budgets and VC funding drying up how they are going to make any real money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,039 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Yeah, I was focusing on the Irish ones but the US ones can get a bit “samey” as well.

    Some of them can be great, like you said Theo Von’s one, ‘We Might Be Drunk’, ‘AnnieWood’, ‘Bad Friends’, ‘Tuesdays with Stories’, ‘Whiskey Ginger etc are all worth a listen but only every once in awhile. You tend get a lot of similar guests going around in circles.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I honestly have never heard any of that , probably because I pick and choose and would no interest in covid or Tate



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    Well I don't blame the listeners, he bunts out a lot of material. Most of it is fairly innocuous, I don't think he's a bad actor or evil person, but his "bullsh!t radar" is non-existent, he has defended some actual pondlife in his day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,545 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I don't think we've reached "Peak Podcasting", i think it's just that Podcasts are starting to dominate.

    For me it replaces the radio which has too many ads, too many phone-ins and/or reading out of listener's texts and too many topics that I'm not interested in.

    Podcasts are perfect as you just select the ones you like and ignore the ones you don't like. I don't get why people would get annoyed about a podcast they don't listen to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Yes I guess like they all found their level podcasts will too.

    I can't understand why someone would listen to something that bores them when there is so much choice out there.

    I don't know much about the financial side of podcasts.



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  • until you get a podcast where every 5 mins they have a sponsor spot 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The key to consuming podcasts is having high standards for yourself. There are loads of high quality podcasts out there that will cater to your specific interests. The trick is finding them. That inevitably means constant pruning. If a podcast starts annoying you or boring you then unsubscribe. There are literally thousands of others out there. I'm constantly chopping and changing.

    Part of the problem is that there are a lot of poor quality podcasts out there. This is because the barrier to entry is so low. Someone can literally just record themselves having a conversation with their friends on their phone and upload it as a podcast. Just because they can doesn't mean that they should though.

    If I listen to a podcast and it's poorly edited, the audio quality is poor or the content is clearly just someone rambling incoherently or phoning it in then I'll switch it off without a second thought. Reading some of the responses to this thread and there appears to be people hate-listening to podcasts. Why would you do that to yourself? Just turn it off and move on.

    Post edited by Brussels Sprout on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,545 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Yes, but you can easily skip through that. Nowhere near as annoying as radio ad breaks.





  • I’ll agree to disagree with you I find sponsor spots 5 times an hour very annoying personally



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Rogan has some interesting guests(the odd time I've looked) but his podcasts are way too long.

    I always get the feeling, that no matter who he has on, Joe has to be the smartest guy in the room.

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/7zjMM0mw8oIr3VxRX0Tfay?si=s3PrL-gPSseA3RzXqajkhQ&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk

    I was sent that by my sister as she knows cold water exposure/cold adaptation is an interest of mine, but nearly 3 hrs long.

    Rogan wouldn't shut the fcuk up kept interrupting a neuroscientist talking in his field of expertise.

    Went straight to the horse's mouth

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/3W4Y9Zb9SEr8E4OKdA3yiC?si=jdUIK7WLQjafJ8Rl_HtzFQ

    Interesting guy I must look at his other stuff. Does a lot of adds at start but grand after that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    People are getting their news from feeds which are governed by their interests.

    They are following posters they agree with on social media.

    Podcasts are chosen or rejected on how they fit the listeners viewpoint.

    Is there a trend here ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I listen to podcasts based on what i,m interested in eg ,tech,gaming, , i also listen to podcasts that are funny or interesting ,eg slate gabfest, frank skinner, ,The point of podcasts is they can be listed to anytime ,on a phone, no need to look at a tv or a laptop screen .i,ll listen to a podcast that are 5 years old if its about something of interest to me

    we are in a world of youtube ,100s of tv channels , streaming channels , why would someone watch or listen to a program they have no interest in. like many hosts joe rogan is only as good as the guest he has on. i listen to podcasts ,i rarely watch them on youtube

    go to rte or bbc news or newser.com, they show the same news to everyone i don,t go to facebook to get my news



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah if you get your news entirely from one podcast with a political bias, then you'll get biased news. But that's nothing new. If you get your news entirely from one tabloid or from GB News, you're not going to get a rounded opinion on the issues.

    If I listen to a history podcast ( listened to a really good The Rest is History episode about St. Patrick today) I don't really see any terrible echo chamber effect. Same with the rugby podcasts I listen to, or the other history podcasts.

    I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were asking if they'd hit peak book in the decades after the printing press was invented.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks a mil. The American far right makes for a fascinating subject. I recommend Bundyville (not Ted) - about that anti federal government, doomsday prepping crowd. Very much western United States - and Mormon.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can we all agree that Eddie Lenihan's podcast is a gem?

    Buckos' who got notations about themselves, meeting a terrible and tragic death down, pulling a tree when they were told not to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I only started listening to them recently. I listened to the coming storm and then a couple that Marianna Spring did about conspiracies and online disinformation. I listened to one about Putin and then I saw someone online recommend the "Behind the Bastards" podcast about Stephen Segal. And now I'm going through the rest of their stuff. (I can highly recommend the Stephen Segal podcast. It's hilarious how far up his own hole he is. There's two episodes and the second one is the best)

    Like others, it's for when I'm cooking, in the shower etc so it can take a week to listen a 90 minute episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭noahungry


    I think there are too many, but that's how it goes with most good ideas. Overtime with having more options instead of getting easier to pick a good one, it's like it's getting more and more difficult. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,545 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    I've never come across a podcast like that. MOst I listen to may start with ads (not sponsorships) and then have an ad break in the middle.

    All easily skippable with the forward 30 second button. You can't do that with the radio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Thats a good idea ,i want a music player with a skip forward 1 minute button that,ll skip past the ads

    ,most ads on american podcasts are no use to me ,they are for american products or websites .go to podbayfm or playerfm.com click explore ,eg, art, culture, gaming , or search for a topic eg history, films etc to find podcasts that might interest you theres 4 podcasts at www.slate.com and they are all worth listening to .

    i wonder does anyone still use the itunes app for podcasts since theres so many podcast apps like player fm with subscribe, and download functions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    So many lumberjack shirts in one place, I'd say the bang of Paco Rabanne was fierce



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭waynescales1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I've no idea, but we should get Joe Brolly to host the Late Late Show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's very good, but I feel like Eddie really needs an audience there in front of him to come alive. If I could, I'd rejig that podcast to have a co-host with Eddie who's knowledgeable enough to pitch intelligent questions and send him off in different directions. Maybe every so often record him doing a live storytelling session.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I love it. I emailed him and asked him if he would come to Newcastle to do a talk in the Tyneside Irish Centre. Never heard back.

    I would love to see him live. Podcast is indeed a gem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It would be worth trying him a few times via different avenues, email, Facebook, maybe even a letter. It's entirely possible that someone of his age and workload will miss, or forget to reply to every communication.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Since this message yesterday I was wondering about that. You're dead right. I'll give it a go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,426 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Only listen to In our time which is a radio program.

    I think we may have reached peak "In our time", it's been on for years and I've listened to almost all the podcasts, but a lot of the subjects covered lately have become very obscure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭megaten


    That's good not bad, I want academics to be locked in a room and forced to try and describe an obscure topic to a general audience.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    theres a podcast on every subject , crime, gossip, news ,tech history, ,its like tv most tv shows are mediocre or predictable.In our time has cover most obvious events in history or scientific theorys , so its now looking at obscure subjects.still its a great way of learning about science and history and culture thats

    discussed by experts.podcasts are an audio medium, no one says have we reached peak tv or peak music. its audio you can listen to a podcast while walking or driving ,so i think they,ll always be popular. i hope someone makes an ai app that,ll find new podcasts based on the podcasts you subscribe to.i think podcasts are great because they allow anyone with a pc ,laptop to make an audio show, if you have skill and talent and a good presenting voice you ,ll get listeners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,274 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    Trying to slag a closed account? Yikes. That’s embarrassing. 😳 😬 😱 It’s “abominable.” 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Looks around scratchs head. Nope still no idea what a podcast is. Never have used them or whatever you do with them. Do you read them or listen to them? No idea.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    I'd agree with the OP about Brolly. I'd rather give my housebound aunt a sponge bath than listen to Brolly droning on about whatever auld brainfart pops into his head. I see it has dropped down to No. 47 on the Apple Podcasts charts, so it seems lots of people have had enough of him. Feel sorry for the lad who co-hosts with him. He must have the patience of St. Monica.

    There's so many truly terrible podcasts, usually featuring between 2 and 4 white men guffawing, rattling on, and generally being of the standard you'd expect from student radio.

    My absolute favourite podcast for the past two years has been The Rest is History. Yes, I'm absolutely aware it's two privileged white men who host it, but it's (usually) so informative and interesting that I look forward to a new episode arriving. They can also be extremely witty and funny without it seeming forced.

    Being young is a great advantage, since we see the world from a new perspective and we are not afraid to make radical changes - Greta Thunburg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    Seems Spotify are cutting a lot of their exclusive podcasts. Expensive to make, hugely varying quality, and I’d imagine the vast majority of people can only actively listen to a small core subset of shows on a regular basis.

    Gary Lineker’s Goalhanger network produces some top class shows, but there’s even signs they are stretching themselves thin.

    I predict we are going to see a lot of shows cancelled or going on an extended hiatus soon. The venture capital money is starting to run out and the model of continued growth in the number of shows and sort out the profitability later is starting to show serious cracks.

    Being young is a great advantage, since we see the world from a new perspective and we are not afraid to make radical changes - Greta Thunburg



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    The next person to complain about white guys i will doxx and butcher to death



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Things aren't going too good for Spotify. I watched a few videos a while back about spotify: tldr, royalties cost them a fortune and they probably can't sustain their business model.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/read-full-memo-spotifys-ceo-093716619.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The only Spotify podcast that I've actually listened to is The Last Soviet. Presented by one of NSync members but the topic is fascinating. All around the soviet union space program and the collapse of the union. But in general, I don't view stars as a draw unless it's somebody being interviewed by Conan but he's properly embraced the format.


    Wouldn't say my general listening is much of an echo chamber either. You Must Remember This is a favourite of mine and that's all film history. Slow Burn also does a nice summary of a historical topic. Eg the last season was around Clarence Thomas. I generally tend to prefer the short run series.



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