Pony Clubs & Firearms

LIFFY FISHING

Can anyone answer me how a ponyclub seems to have different rules applied to them regarding airfifles and air pistols regarding authorisation ?

In the SI it states that to obtain a pistol licence...no differance regarding an air or LR ...that a person must be a member of a 4A range...yet a pony club has no range or range authorisation but AGS grant the pony clubs licences / authorisations for pistols and licences..for 11 and 12 & 13 year olds to use...yet one must be 14 to obtain a training cert....am I missing something in the Firearms Act ??

BattleCorp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058292446/pony-clubs-firearms

What did the pony club do on you? 😁

I was nosey and went looking for info and the Commissioner's Guidelines 2018 states "Section 2(4)( d) of the 1925 Act may be utilised by a superintendent to authorise the likes of pony club and pentathlon events."

https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/online-services/firearms-licensing/commissioner-s-guidelines-2018.pdf

Funny enough when I went to look at the legislation on irishstatutebook.ie, I don't see a Section 2(4) in the Firearms Act, 1925.

tonysopprano

https://revisedacts.lawreform.ie/eli/1925/act/17/section/2/revised/en/html

https://revisedacts.lawreform.ie/eli/1925/act/17/section/4A/revised/en/html

LIFFY FISHING

I know what a range authorisation is...but a pony club is not an authorised range...as in they move location, and yes I know about fairground air rifles....what I dont understand is how soneone can bring home a pistol that they dont have a licence for because a pony club says its ok 🤔

tonysopprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120482841#Comment_120482841

Then you don't mix in the right circles or your brown envelope is not big enough. Money talks.

badaj0z

This has always puzzled me too. There are(may still be) exemptions for school air rifle ranges. Do any still exist?

tonysopprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485187#Comment_120485187

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Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483016#Comment_120483016

Tis hard to see the local Lurcher Club getting the same dispensation alright.