Dublin Marathon 2023

Glencarraig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120812248#Comment_120812248

Dublin marathon still get the €143...........the original entry costing €113 and the €30 for the transfer.

ArtXus

Anyone would.like transfer? Somehow I have forgotten to apply:)

Daydreaming Pieces

Also looking for an available transfer if anyone has one going I'd very much appreciate it 😊

event

Seperate thread for that folks

nullObjects

Into double digits for the days countdown shortly...

Premier Micheal

I’m interested in buying a race entry if anyone wants to transfer theirs

event

Theres another thread for this

AerLingus747

looking forward to this again this year... always great banter at the water stations

mick26.2

I have a race entry I'm willing to let go. PM me and we can arrange a transfer.

mick26.2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120888803#Comment_120888803

Gone

MisterJinx

A fair few offers of transfers in the thread below if anyone is still looking

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058303657/dcm-2023-transfer-requests#latest

shanemwalsh

hi all, I have an entry to this years marathon that I'm looking to sell at cost price (+ €30 transfer fee as you're aware) . Fell free to pop me a message on here or email me shanemwalsh1@gmail.com if interested. Thanks!

Update: Ticket sold

RyanJx

I have a transfer available if anyone is still looking.

CPOM

Hi yes I'll take it please

tobottherobot

Hi folks,

Bowing out of my first DCM in 6 years as I’ll be away now 🙃 It’ll be strange not being there for it

My ticket available if there’s anyone on here that needs it - can’t do the transfer any more but I can collect the pack or give the authorisation form for someone else to pick it up.

Good luck to everyone running 💪💪

event

The Irish Life Dublin Marathon has introduced a new category to allow runners to enter as non-binary, as well as either male or female.

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956326#Comment_120956326

Pure nonsense, how did gay people ever survive in athletics prior to this category introduction in the last few years? Pandering to the permanently offended.

event

Meh, doesnt affect me in any way tbh. If it makes people more comfortable in expressing themselves, let them at it

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956606#Comment_120956606

Not trying to get at you at all, sorry.

I've read some considered articles on this and you can find it ranges from the likes of gript to marathon legends(Mara).

It is essentially putting males Vs females together in a completely unregulated category without any consideration for the basic principles of fair competition.

Also the prospect of cutting into whatever prize money for male/female fields is a secondary thought but a very valid one.

If it starts here, where does it end? Would people have an appetite to watch a non binary Olympics category in each sport, would be a **** show. The lawyers would make a killing anyway.

event

Probably not for this thread to be fair, but personally I get the arguments from all sides, its a pretty complex topic IMO

Clarecarrick

Really ignorant comment tbh. Being non binary does not mean you are gay for starters… if you aren’t non binary then it really has nothing to do with you worry about your own category.

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957496#Comment_120957496

My point about gay people was that gay is an Identity, same as non binary.

There are only two sexes, hence we have only ever had two race categories.

AerLingus747

This is a top drawer chat topic for the 5k and 10k water stations.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956606#Comment_120956606

I'm only bothered by men who have changed to become women after puberty and then think its fair to compete as women when they clearly have a physical and biological advantage over their competition.

I dont want to be ignorant but does this non binary category cover what I just mentioned and do they get the same prize as men and women category?

If the rules from last year apply to this category then there must be at least three competitors to constitute a prize giving category.

If they get the same prize then this is the perfect opportunity for any mediocre running non binarys out there to win a nice sum of money and get a title, assuming that there are no super non binary athletes out there competing in Dublin Marathon. I dont know of any myself.

I wonder if you have to do anything to prove you're non binary or could anyone just say they are

event

There are no indications that there is a new category as such, just that you can nominate yourself as non binary. I dont think there are prizes. Again, this is probably very off topic and something that is very emotional for a lot of people, including those both for and against this.

Clarecarrick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958871#Comment_120958871

Non binary means the person doesn’t identify as male or female it is not the same as transgender which is changing from one sex to another. I would imagine it is simply so that going forward you don’t have to tick a box that you feel doesn’t apply to you when identifying yourself.

chabsey

Speaking of the 5k and 10k water stations, I wonder do the non-binary entrants get special drinks full of gender fluid.

I'll get my coat.

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120959289#Comment_120959289

This is it. When you sign up to a race there is usually a drop down that has gender with 3 options. Male, Female, rather not say. Now there will be a 4th added.

It wont affect anyone else really, but as usual people are up in arms over something that has literally zero impact on their lives.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120959221#Comment_120959221

Agreed, if there is no prize category involved then its a non running subject but if there is then the rules should be an open discussion on any forum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120959289#Comment_120959289

Well actually if Google Wiki is to be trusted its not as straightforward as that, it does involve Trans as well but not exclusively. Anyway its neither here nor there unless as I said earlier theres prize money and status involved.

Unknownability

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942877#Comment_120942877

Is this still available?

CuriousCucumber

How's training going for everyone?

Starting to feel like I'm marathon training again.

Had a long run this evening of 15km. It wasn't difficult, but the old issues of getting bored, and wondering if I should have brought gels and water have come flooding back.

I think 21.1km is in 2 weeks, and I'll start with gels and water at that stage.

tobottherobot

@Unknownability Went this afternoon. Sorry!!

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120963114#Comment_120963114

Up to 16m this weekend. So will be starting to use the gels this week

kd82

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120963114#Comment_120963114

First timer. 18m last night. Bit of getting used to. Trying to do the long ones on a Thursday night. Just loading up with podcasts and audiobooks the last few long ones. Gels seem to be going good.

Reg'stoy

wiggle.com/ie are running a sale at the moment, can confirm no custom duties. Usual caveat, don't buy gels in bulk, unless you've used them before. From my own experience, the high 5 aqua gels, are very easy on the stomach, packets are easier to open, and less sticky on the hands afterwards.

Glencarraig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120962758#Comment_120962758

So........lets just say that an athlete who is a member of an Athletics Ireland club and has entered to run in the National Marathon Championships as part of the Dublin Marathon as a male and finishes in the first 3 in his age cat but now declares as non binary is he/they entitled to a national Champs medal?

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120972909#Comment_120972909

Do the national Championships have a category for non binary?

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120973100#Comment_120973100

Don't nitpick with facts. This registration drop down option is an existential threat to our civilisation and a slippery slope to everyone identifying as squirrels.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120973100#Comment_120973100

I don't really want to get involved in this sort of debate but the devils advocate in me wants to make the obvious point.

If there is a non-binary category in the Dublin marathon, then eventually somebody will ask the question of why there isn't that category in the national champs as well. And if there is a separate category for them, then eventually somebody will ask why there are placings for male and female but not for non-binary. And after that, if they list placings for the non-binary category, then somebody will ask why there is prize money for male and female, but not for non-binary.

And the people the questions are directed at will not be able to answer without offending somebody.

py

Categories should align to those of World Athletics. If this is in alignment with those, fantastic. If not, then I don't understand why they're going it alone.

Glencarraig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120973100#Comment_120973100

I have no idea, thats why I asked the question.

Murph_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120974546#Comment_120974546

The answer to the question (both questions actually) is no.

Acton Rolo

Is this still available, I'm looking for a ticket

Acton Rolo

Just wondering if anyone has a ticket for the DCM, i missed out on the lottery and hoping to get one if someone has one available?

Trampas

I see Boston have non binary qualifying times. They are the same times as women’s time

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120973328#Comment_120973328

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but seems like prize money allocation, should that ever become an issue, can be made fair by simply making it proportionate to the number of entrants in whatever category, i.e. the number of people you beat in that category.

Elite sport is figuring out how to handle these issues with sensitivity and pragmatism. There will be mis-steps but I don't see any slippery slope.

For the most part these issues only matter in elite non-professional sports. I've competed in non-elite sport alongside people of other sexes and nobody was bothered - the (relatively elite) women benefitted from the work out of racing alongside (relatively, eh, non-elite) men.

Glencarraig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121002669#Comment_121002669

Not every race cover all the age cats. I'm in the 65-69 cat but many races only have over 50, over 60 etc, so I can find myself competing with athletes nine years younger than myself which in the younger cats does not have the same affect.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121002669#Comment_121002669

Once money comes into the equation there will be so much room for corruption by using an umbrella term like non binary.

TheRef

Getting real. Wave number and number collection details emailed out today.