Cocaine Destroying Rural Ireland

yagan

When you say rural I assumed one off houses outside towns, but then you cited towns.

There is a difference. Rural can be more dangerous for people in terms of loneliness and general isolation, but statistically it's very safe.

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122682463#Comment_122682463

Adare might be safe apart from burgularies & Business break ins but Croom certainly isnt .

Askeaton,Abbeyfeale,Newcastle West, Rathkeale , Kilmallock , Charleville are all controlled by traveller drug gangs and the outlying villages of these towns also suffer .There has been some welcome garda activity this week in Newcastle West & Rathkeale & charleville but its only scratching the surface of whats going on , its been allowed fester for the last decade into complete breakdown of law and order in these towns.

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683001#Comment_122683001

Explain that to all the people robbed by traveller gangs that abandon their homes to move into nursing homes or bolt themselves into their houses from 4pm every evening with about ten locks on their doors that live oiutside these towns & villages

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/shock-home-burglary-co-limerick-13691545

Quitelife

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/shock-home-burglary-co-limerick-13691545

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683006#Comment_122683006

"Controlled by traveller drug gangs" is just pure hyperbole.

What are they controlling ?

Gary_dunne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683030#Comment_122683030

So both Dublin isn't safe and now rural Ireland isn't safe? There's nowhere left.

Is the next thread Ireland isn't safe?

pjordan

So I expect you mean in terms of the impact of crime on rural communities? The reality is that there's still an urban/rural divide. Even midsize towns in rural Ireland are affected by drugs and gang related violence and you'll always get the drunken/drugged up scrotes that will pick a fight on random strangers for no reason at all and are frequently carrying knifes now too. The weekly provincial newspaper court reports are full of evidence of cases with solicitors pleading on behalf of their clients that it was "completely out of character" and it was merely the influence of the drink or drugs. I would say however, in both urban and rural Ireland, drug debt (from cocaine especially) is a growing problem with dealers prepared to go to whatever means necessary to collect their debts.

Apart from that, the main risk to one's health and property in rural Ireland proper is from a marauding crime gang targeting your property, or the possibillty of encountering a coked up driver on a rural unlit road while walking, cycling or driving or, applicable to anywhere in the country, being scammed out of your hard won earnings by some online activity or other.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683030#Comment_122683030

I said statistically. But you seem to not want to hear that.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122682970#Comment_122682970

Neither will a scrote for 99.8% of the population

4Ad

Rural Ireland is safe, apart from the roads..The speed peopleare driving at.. and for the standard of driving is terrible !!

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683036#Comment_122683036

When the Garda Stations were closed down or reduced to micky mouse hours ie 1 hour or less a day , scumbags can operate freely , in towns mentioned earlier there is sizeable extended families who dont work and are free to intimidate all other people all day every day. They would also be heavily involved in selling drugs & intimidating anyone that intefers in that.

One time in these towns there was a garda station to prevent that but Alan Shatter of Fine Gael closed them or downgraded them so these gangs know theres nobody to stop them bar a once a year raid locally.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683195#Comment_122683195

Are you just rehashing everything from your other thread

Cocaine Destroying Rural Ireland — boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin'

What's the point of that?

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122683184#Comment_122683184

when you know there’s no guard to correct you when your driving on the phone , or reading your WhatsApp’s or replying to them people can’t resist been on their phones

Galwayguy35

Nowhere is safe anymore.

We don't know who will be coming to our communities so everyone has to be viligant.

Gary_dunne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122685236#Comment_122685236

I think as the Terminator, you'll be grand Arnie.

breezy1985

A Connacht man sobbing about immigration 🤣

The only fuking job that place had for a hundred years was bus drivers working the route to the Dublin port ferry.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122685360#Comment_122685360

Says the lad from Limerick which was a dump for most of the last 100 years so maybe you should sit this one out.

L Grey

Rural Ireland isn't controlled by a Gambino-type organisation but it's naive to ignore the fact that crime happens and drugs and its problems have changed rural Ireland to some degree.

pgj2015

You make these towns sound like something out of mad max, op.

Thankfully travellers don't control any town in Ireland, neither do drug dealers.

InAtFullBack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122682970#Comment_122682970

I think you've used a very poor example to be honest!

A bank will hold a theoretical knife to the throat of elected representatives in a closed-door meeting at 2am and swindle €64 Billion from everyone so they don't lose.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122685521#Comment_122685521

At least I can admit that Limerick's problem are and always were fellow Limerick people.

I'm not at home soiling my pants about some "unvetted" bogeyman that the tabloids have fooled me into believing in.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058371847/is-rural-ireland-really-safe

You’re answering your own question with a link to an article which describes Gardaí being very effective in thwarting organised criminal activity (though reading the article it would seem that their criminal activities were decidedly disorganised! 😂).

Rural Ireland is perfectly safe in the respect that by virtue of it being rural, the same opportunities for antisocial behaviour as are present in urban communities, simply do not arise. There has been a growing trend in recent decades of drug-related criminal activity in rural areas, but nothing at the level which would suggest that rural communities are unsafe, any more than there is significant credible evidence to suggest that urban communities are unsafe or any more dangerous than rural communities.

It’s the role of the media to report on circumstances of public interest, and quite often various media outlets will embellish their coverage in order to portray a particular narrative, in order to draw more attention and thereby more clicks, papers sold, subscriptions and interactions. It doesn’t work if they’re only reporting factual information, because that’s far less interesting or likely to draw attention. It works the same way for your discussion(s?), in that you begin the conversation with a question, then answer it in what appears to be the negative, comparing coverage in the media of rural criminal activity with coverage of urban criminal activity in the nations capital city.

It’s evident that you’re attempting to exaggerate to make your case, but there is scant evidence that there is any cause for alarm either in rural or urban communities. Having lived half and half between both rural and urban communities, I’ve never felt unsafe in either, nor have I ever had any cause for concern, suspicion, alarm or fear. That doesn’t mean I’m not aware of other people some of whom have good reason to be concerned, but most people simply do not, and don’t feel a need to be concerned about the risk of becoming a victim of a crime committed by someone else. They might have greater reason to be concerned if, like the individuals in the article you posted - they are already involved in criminal activity themselves.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122682428#Comment_122682428

What a nonsense post.

Should you be called Quietlife or what was the thinking?

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122682439#Comment_122682439

Do you really think you'll get beaten up for walking on a street in Dublin? Sounds like bollox (to coin your phrase)!

To answer the OP's question, Ireland is a safe country.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122686803#Comment_122686803

I know I'll get a ban for doxing but I'm certain Quitelife is actually Mrs Glynn.

"What next? Somebody will be murdered, and then where are we? Drive by shootings in the night, it'll be like Boys n the Hood. And then they'll have hoes selling their wares in the middle of the street and the pimps will be using crack cocaine to keep the whores under control.”

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122688532#Comment_122688532

If you wander off one of the main drags there is a very real possibility. Dublin always had some real threatening places very close into the centre.

I remember been warned off going past the cathedral by a local the first time I went to Dublin over 30 years ago - it certainly hasn't got better.

happyoutscan

Rural Ireland is ridiculously safe. Certainly can't compare it to the cities or the bigger towns.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122688604#Comment_122688604

That's not true. Dublin is fine, you'll be perfectly safe walking the streets of your capital. Even off the "main drags".

If you're ever visiting post up on the Dublin City forum for advice, where to go, what to etc… It's a very very safe city.

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122686803#Comment_122686803

do you know or have any experience of any of these towns in county Limerick controlled by the traveller drug gangs ?

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122688604#Comment_122688604

Yeah...Dalkey, Blackrock, Malahide, Howth, Mount Merrion, Sandycove, Donnybrook, Clontarf, Ballsbridge, Rathmichael, Castleknock, Sutton, Killiney (bored now) are all terrible places alright.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122689186#Comment_122689186

Save that for your other thread rather that repeating everything here. I thought this thread was about safety in rural Ireland as a whole and not traveller drug cartels in towns, ergo Urban, parts of Limerick.

nachouser

I live in Dublin CC, and I reckon it's quite safe. I'm in Sligo at the moment and it seems pretty safe. Not one person offered to sell me drugs. Lots of strangers nodding at you as you walk past. I dunno, Ireland is mostly safe.

John_Rambo

The only added danger to rural areas would be road accidents. The majority of road deaths happen on rural roads in Ireland. And the general health implications of car dependency, rural obesity etc…

Aurelian

I live in rural Ireland. The only criminality I see on a daily basis is driving. The only thing that disturbs my peace is how people drive.

Feline Groovy

Of course it is. While break-ins/burglary, assault and intimidation are obviously unacceptable, isolated incidents don't make the entire Irish countryside dangerous.

Quitelife

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/longford/news/gardai-probe-possible-feud-link-to-suspected-overnight-arson-attack-in-longford-town/a843943806.html

Yet another feud episode in Longford, worse than Limerick at this stage

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122697410#Comment_122697410

When was the last feud episode in Longford?

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122697410#Comment_122697410

You keep beating this drum. Is any place outside a city classed as rural to you? Is an isolated incident in one location sufficient to describe all of rural Ireland as unsafe?

Is this just more fuel being thrown in your anti traveller campaign?

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122697602#Comment_122697602

I couldn’t care less who anyone is or what they are but those who commit crime have a huge impact on law abiding people and that’s not right and should be punished if that’s in Longford , Limerick or Talbot street …we are too soft on crime

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122698217#Comment_122698217

again, theres no conclusive evidence to support stiffer sentences actually reduces overall crime rates, as its highly complex in nature

MallowMan17

CCTV, monitored alarm, dog and shotgun makes it perfectly safe

Beasty

Thread merged

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122698248#Comment_122698248

people who are confined 24 hours a day behind large walls commit significantly less crime against innocent people.

not locking people away who persistently commit crimes like burglary is a failure by the state in its duty of care to the victims of those people , by all means educate and rehabilitate people in custody but they must be incarcerated for long periods of time to protect the vulnerable citizens.

nothing complex about that