Cocaine Destroying Rural Ireland

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530375#Comment_122530375

That was example to illustrate that not everyone will run towards it if it become say supervised or somehow regulated or controlled. Current policy is not an answer as you can see yourself. It is not just cocaine which is destroying communities, it is pretty much everything out there. I remember when there was the same talk about alcohol, smoking, heroin, benzos, fentanyl, cannabis…

Cocaine is the topic today but there will be something new tomorrow or soon and you can be sure about it.

We are not identifying what make people to do things like that, we are not going after the cause but trying to deal with effect. That is not going to work.

drury..

I don't have links handy but my understanding is greater availability means greater usage

Anyway people mistakenly believe the black market disappears but that's not the case at all. They simply undercut the legal market which includes taxes etc on the price

This is the current situation in the US with marijuana sales .There's the legal supply and the black market continues.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122533683#Comment_122533683

Cannabis is a bit of a non-starter for this argument, because people can just buy a few plants and grow their own. Not really an option with cocaine.

The other argument isn't anything to do with increasing usage - it's that the increased usage is safer. Now whether that's true or not depends on the individual.

notAMember

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523916#Comment_122523916

Thanks, but I had already addressed that in the first half of my post if you read it…

You can be personally responsible (ie, well behaved, looking after your own health) but still miss social responsibility in terms of how is it supplied. The Bananahammock responded it that they didn't mean all the time, just a few times a year, so that excuses it in their eyes.

Your response is mentioning alcohol as a carcinogen… which is still personal responsibility. Beer, wine, whiskey whatever is all legally produced, taxed etc. Cocaine/Heroin is not. It's produced by slash and burn "agriculture", deforestation, smuggling, drug cartels and violence. That's the social responsibility.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122533683#Comment_122533683

Greater availability of contraception and abortion probably resulted in higher usage of both, but change happened. As I said black markets exist in other everyday legal items, sportwear, designer brand clothes, Rolex watches, Ray Ban sunglasses, cigarettes, even viagra and sleeping pills. That doesn't mean we should ban the legally sold genuine products. A google search will tell you how many millions are raised in places where marijuana is legal. That means less than a hundred per cent of the market is controlled by criminals, surely that's better than here where they have total (100%) control.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122534311#Comment_122534311

If you've a problem with social responsibility, cartels and how cocaine is supplied, why don't you support a change of law, instead of judging users on their so-called lack of morality? In our recent past, powerful people and their supporters judged others adversely on their personal habits, usually of a sexual nature. History has been unkind to those moralists.