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F1 2023 - Round 7 : Monaco

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    CHAOS

    Worst track ever for no grip, no margin for error.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,295 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Stroll on Inters and he decides to get rid of his front wing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Stroll playing bumper cars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,880 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Stroll has some lowlights reel from today



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Stroll looks like someone who won a competition to drive an Aston Martin for a day.


    Terrible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Stroll hitting barriers.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    What’s K Mag at?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Full wets for Kmag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,880 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Alonsos gamble also giving max a free stop should they need full wets or it dries (unlikely) for slicks



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Perez on full wets too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,295 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    So much happening!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I can barely keep up with all this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭deafroadrunner


    Absolute carnage. Can see a safety car or red flag soon



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    5 sec for Russell is very soft. That's lethal



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Yeah it’s great! I hope AMKC is enjoying the sun, he’s missing a cracking race! 😂😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Ridiculous by Russell. Shocking driving.

    Monco is always boring.......



  • Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    Stop the race, it's too dangerous for Lewis!

    Struggling to keep up with all this drama



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Max still going full send like a mad man!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,295 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    C4 are going to have to show extended highlights.

    They'd fill the normal slot with just Stroll today.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,366 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Bit of strategy talk from Russell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,295 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    lol at Yuki



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Hang on for third Ocon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,397 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Starting to dry a bit, wonder will see anyone try dry tires for the last few laps



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Way too risky and the inters will still be well good enough even on a drying track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭Guffy


    So bad for ferrari pitting Sainz so early on the hard tyres!! How do they fúck up strategy time and time again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Checo 2 laps down to Verstappen, a bit of an embarrassment



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    To be fair he’s been a guinea pig today in terms of pit stops. But for sure he was lapped once genuinely. Max a level above everyone today so far, fingers crossed. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,397 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    For anyone outside the top 10, Bottas perhaps, might consider it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Ocon had a fluff in his stop so Ferrari tried to take advantage.



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Merc must be getting closer to Aston Martin in the championship after this race maybe? Stroll really is being shown up this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Well done Ocon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,880 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Yeah, Aston with a superior package but will ultimately finish behind merc cause Stroll is pretty average. Even a bottas in that car would go very well.


    Saves mercs blushes though, not being beaten by a customer team.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Wouldn’t surprise me if some folks still give out and call it a boring race.

    Brilliant qualifying yesterday, great race today - Monaco delivered this year for a change. Delighted for Max, too good again today in all conditions. Great drive from Ocon too tbf, shame for Sainz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    my link went on lap 78...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,397 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Just a pity about the extra stop for Alonso but otherwise race was pretty good with a mix of medium and hard running at the front, most did well to keep going, only 2 retirements



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Just saw the points tables, Merc are 1 point behind Aston Martin now. Daddy Stroll should be giving baby Stroll a bollocking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    He'll probably put it on the strategist who put Alonso on drys. Bernie (Collins) come back, all is forgiven.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Decent race. I had to leave tv with about 3 laps to go, did we get any real explanation as to what Aston were up to with that decision to box for slicks?

    Stroll and Perez were well poor today too.

    There is an inevitability around Max now. Even today he was on medium tyres but somehow can get them to last as long as (or longer than) the hards. What's the earliest the championship has been decided by?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Aston thought the rain wasn’t going to be as heavy or spread over all the track. I think Ferrari did the same? Can’t remember.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    In a strange way, it was the right call at the time! Didn’t Apline pit Ocon just a lap before for Mids too?? Just 45 seconds later it wasn’t the case anymore! Cost him nothing tho, had he pitted for inters I still think Max would have got the overcut done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭This is it


    Just watched the highlights on Ch4. Interesting last 20 or so laps but never again will I listen to Alex Jacques (I think he's the lead commentator?)... I'd rather not watch at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Wouldn’t surprise me if some folks still give out and call it a boring race.

    Brilliant qualifying yesterday

    It was a boring race and a boring quali on Saturday.

    Nothing much happened up front. I have not even finished watching the highlights yet and I have a fair idea that Max will finish first ALONSO in 2nd and Ocon in 3rd and I have not watched any sports news today or listened to any radio or seen anything about it on the net.

    Maybe I just do not care as much this weekend because I have a cold or a flu. Have felt better so ye I watched it but it was not great.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,257 ✭✭✭✭flazio




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Lol Alonso




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Another master class from Max.

    A great drive from Alonso and Ocon too. I would love to have seen Alonso win this. He may yet win a race this year.

    Post edited by 2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    Managed to see the race on replay last night - so a but late to the party on this.

    Alonso's pitstop was bonkers for me. At the start of the race the strategy seemed to be twofold -

    • Get max off the line and keep him behind, or
    • Keep the hard tyres on as long as possible, hope Max has to change his tyres, and the rain gives you a free pitstop.

    Now, fair enough, Max did a monster stint on the mediums. AM probably didn't see that coming. But anyone could have seen that the new Mediums were the wrong call. The rain was falling at that stage.

    Max's inlap was really slow. Had Alonso put on the inters, he would have had the pace in theory to have been ahead of Max (but we'll never really know because he may have had traffic on slicks to contend with).

    P2 is obviously a great result - one AM would have taken in a heartbeat at the start of the weekend. But surely it's hard for their strategy department not to see it as a win lost rather than P2 gained.

    If Ferrari did it, we would be absolutely crucifying them over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,318 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    If Ferrari did it, we would be absolutely crucifying them over it.


    Yes it was a crazy strategy and one that surely lost Alonso the win.

    The difference between Ferrari and Aston Martin is that Ferrari have been around longer and are the bigger team with more resources yet they continually mess it up. It is easy to say Aston Martin should have done this or that in hindsight but in the heat of the race its a lot different. I am sure they will learn from it unlike Ferrari and will not mess up the next time a great opportunity like that comes along. Singapore maybe?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Even Alonso said had they pitted for inters, it wouldn't have been enough. It wasn't a great call in hindsight and yes, the comparisons to Ferrari are there. However, it was a net neutral decision anyway, he was never going to beat Max unfortunately.



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