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Jobpath PPP Mandatory in 2023?

  • 17-06-2023 9:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6


    Hey lads,

    Supposed to be starting up college in September, hopefully on BTEA but been assigned to Turas Nua with my first meeting this week. I'm seeing conflicting information on whether or not you can be sanctioned for refusing to sign the Personal Progression Plan with them, does anyone know whether this is the case or not?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,014 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Not sure why you've been assigned to Turas Nua 🤔

    Jobs path is finished, there's the new Pathways to work scheme which replaced Jobs path and Turas Nua not involved in this, in fact Turas Nua, essentially no longer in operation.

    Seetac & larger Intero centres managing Pathways to work I believe.

    In relation to your specific questions.

    If your on a Jobseekers payment, regardless of your plans, you will be chosen for Pathways to work.

    Re the PPP, there is no legal obligation to sign this, however this will mean you'll get extra attention. There's a number of threads on this matter throughout the forum.

    Engage you must however.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 fiddledeedeehoho


    Thanks for the response. From what I can gather, jobpath has essentially been replaced only in name and people are still being referred to Turas Nua, they're just now calling it the "National Employment Service". Not sure how much it differs from the original jobpath.

    What kind of extra attention do you mean? I am quite hesitant to sign anything with them as I'm going to college in September and I don't want to end up stuck with them, especially if it might affect my BTEA claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,014 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I'm afraid your intention to go to college in September needs to be parked to one side.

    You are a Jobseeker in the departments eyes hence your being referred to pathways. By refusing to sign the PPP, which is your right, that can be construed as you not engaging. In essence, without signing a PPP can't be put in place & what the consequences are as a result, no one can say.

    Your BTEA application is an entirely seperate issue. Whilst on Pathways, you will be contacted weekly and will be expected to apply for jobs, complete tasks, prepare resumes etc even if you don't sign the PPP.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Well said and explained Dempo.

    So often I’ve said that as part of the applying for Jobseekers process each applicant should have to attend, either as part of a group or individually a short explanatory presentation about the conditions for Jobseekers.

    It might save some of the confusion that ensues later on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,014 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Thank you 😊.

    I don't like to be to tough in my responses but people need to understand the DSP have processes in place ,they are in the Main very fair and a person's intentions , plans etc are irrelevant, they assess the hear & Now and if a person is on a Jobseekers payment, that's how they are assessed, not what they might apply for in a few months time.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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