RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799004#Comment_120799004

Gay is not a great advert for not having an agent

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/gay-byrne-i-am-no-different-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-who-lost-money-1.4072183

TinyMuffin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798970#Comment_120798970

Intriguing.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798941#Comment_120798941

Your sympathy is misplaced and totally undeserved.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798984#Comment_120798984

Financially RT is absolutely fine..

but personally and emotionally it must be very tough.

Such a fall from grace, and so very publicly.

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799011#Comment_120799011

I corrected my post as I knew someone would come back with that. Agents do not advise people how to invest or spend money, and as the article says, he was no different to others. I believe Joe Duffy also lost a lot, and Mike Murphy as well as prized NK asset Donnacha O'Callaghan.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799019#Comment_120799019

Ok….#coldasice

TinyMuffin

Rte came up with The meaning of life series to help out gaybo. Then the other tool stepped into the role as it’s easy money.

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799020#Comment_120799020

What fall from grace? He's still paid by RTE, only for no work. There is no sign of him being sacked. And if polls are accurate, a lot of people hold him blameless and would have him back on air in a flash. Unless there's serious reform of RTE, Tubridy and NKM will be back at the heart of RTE a year from now.

techman1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798655#Comment_120798655

In fairness you cannot say he got the job by nepotism he seems to well qualified with plenty of experience from other industries outside public sector land. It's the "talent " etc that get in there through nepotism links. Once they get into RTE they never leave

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799020#Comment_120799020

It's not as if he didn't play his part in it though, and he can't be that naive to not have entertained the notion that he might be caught out.

Gas that he was pontificating to the plebs at the same time and telling us all how magnanimous he was in accepting a pay cut that wasn't all the same.

realdanbreen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799019#Comment_120799019

You forgot to put IMO at the beginning of your post.

Speak in Proverbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798569#Comment_120798569

You’re fooling no one. The masks has slipped several times on that post aside from the inane elongated stream of consciousness ramblings.

As for moving RTE outside Dublin and decentralising, as a Dubliner I agree completely so long as it doesn’t use taxpayers money.

The only people it will be hurting is the socialist Fianna Failers with Blackrock College connections. Which you blatantly are.

humberklog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799004#Comment_120799004

Whilst there'll always be exceptions I don't think Gay is the best example...

Some artists and entertainers can indeed be fully across their field, selecting out successful business managers come entertainer hardly "blows a massive hole".

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/gaybo-was-effed-out-of-it-by-rte-bosses-when-he-asked-for-a-pay-rise/26212616.html&ved=2ahUKEwjhjM6qv_L_AhXZRkEAHQogD5QQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2v2e9WelSw3xhUZShajUXk

Why on earth would I bring Murphy into it?

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799045#Comment_120799045

Do you think everything revolves around cash here?

He has had an epic fall from grace. I think pretty much anyone can see this.

So he has plenty cash...big deal. I am not commenting on his having plenty of cash, other than to say that financially he is fine

I am speaking about his reputation and image and brand and how he is perceived in Ireland at present. That will be very tough on him, as it would anyone else in a similar position. We are all just humans, after all.

I cannot see him back at RTE. And pretty much what anyone will remember him for now on is this payments issue

pjordan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798972#Comment_120798972

That reminds me of an incident from an era which I would regard as the golden age or Irish radio (I had relatively recently moved from listening to 2fm to RTE radio one and there was some exceptional programming to listen to on there in the mid to late 90's!) back in the summer of 1995 when a certain Joe Duffy was filling in in Gay Byrne's morning slot for Gaybo's annual jaunt away to Donegal. Anyway Joe (as many know how fiercely he guards his own privacy and how prickly he gets on Liveline when anyone gets to close too home with any personal details about him!) was following up on media reports that Sharon Stone had been shopping in Galway after her picture had appeared on the front pages of a few of the national papers. So Joe rings up the proprieter of The Treasure Chest gift shop in Galway as Sharon had been snapped outside and inquires to know if Sharon had been there. "Yes" said the owner "and she was lovely". "And what did she buy?" sez the bould Joe. "Actually that is none of your business" said the owner. "How would you like if you came into my shop tomorrow Joe and then I went on the national airwaves telling everyone what you bought? We respect our customers privacy."

A cautionary tale, no doubt long forgotten by many in RTE, who were well able to dish it out and inquire into the lives of others in the most minute detail, but don't take too kindly when they same focus is targeted at themselves when the situation warrants.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799063#Comment_120799063

True.. IMHO, any sympathy for Tubridy or Forbes or any others steering/ aboard this gravy train is misplaced and totally undeserved.

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799072#Comment_120799072

Based on the last few weeks alone, a talent agent or someone working for them would be the last person talent should ask for financial advice.

"You've got into financial difficulty? No worries, I will ask RTE for a raise, let me sort it, no-one will ever know".

Too much money and not knowing what to do with it is a lot of the problem with RTE stars.

My point stands, Gaybo was talented and without an agent, and well able to negotiate. On the otherhand, the agents appear to have a virtual monopoly on appointments of their clients to high profile presenting jobs in RTE these days. It almost seems like you can't get a presenting job in RTE unless you are part of NKM, or have to join NKM to get one.

Some of the older presenters have managed to avoid this, probably because they started in RTE before NKM came on the scene.

Gaybo wouldn't get in the doors of RTE if he was starting out now.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798909#Comment_120798909

Claddaghduff.

pjordan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799070#Comment_120799070

Japers I am about as far removed from Blackrock college and FF inner circles as you can get.... I'm a rural culchie (with no parish pump influence whatsoever!) and proud of it!

Although, if I put my cards openly on the table, I have to declare I have benefitted from certain associations with RTE on more than one occasion in my life....

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799080#Comment_120799080

I've news for you.

Tubridy does not care. He does not care about reputational damage to RTE, did not care about everyone else having to take a pay cut while he lobbied for a payrise, did not care about RTE underwriting the deal, did not care about RTE publishing incorrect figures and did not care about throwing the RTE accounting department under the bus. He also does not care about appearing before the PAC.

Brass neck doesn't even cover it.

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799080#Comment_120799080

So the lesson here is don't be so greedy

Why would anyone feel sorry for him? he wouldn't if it was someone else. He was greedy and lied to people. He had a position of power and instead of trying to do something good with it all he was interested in was stuffing his own pockets

It might make a few people sit up and change their actions

And the main point again, if it was someone else he would be on the radio now pulling them to pieces and telling everyone how great he is.

Speak in Proverbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799113#Comment_120799113

So you admit youre Fianna Fáil?

Your attempt to critically analyse ButterSukis post and pose question marks over her clearly better mode of thinking, demonstrates an inherent resentment that comes from poisonously conservative rural people.

It appears, with your resentment of “D4” people, you would fit right in at Blackrock college. Privilege is another phrase they bandy around. To us it means meritocracy to them nepotism. Which is better, you decide!

humberklog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799101#Comment_120799101

Well according to the link I posted he wasn't great at negotiating all the time. Getting "effed" out of it by the DG for asking for a modest pay rise doesn't sound great

Also spending most of your working life being afraid to take holidays doesn't seem to me to have been a great situation to have found yourself in.

As I said, you could pick many exceptions, I just don't think Gaybo is it though.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799020#Comment_120799020

He didn’t really fall from grace. RT was hardly everyones favourite TV person before this anyway.

BattleCorp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120797429#Comment_120797429

My response wasn't just in relation to the 'talent' and by talent I assume you mean the self-employed people like Tubs. The problem is that there are lots of other highly paid people who aren't self-employed. They are essentially public servants and you can't change the terms and conditions of public servants too easy.

Your solution would work for the self employed but not for anyone else.

BattleCorp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120793882#Comment_120793882

Nobody has ever been jailed for not paying a licence fee. What happens is that they get fined for not paying the licence fee and it's only when they don't pay the fine that they get jailed. So they get jailed for not paying a fine, and not for failing to buy a TV licence.

Anyway, it's totally illegal to receive a fine and not pay it. It has yet to be established if RTE, Tubs or anyone else did anything illegal. I'm not saying they didn't do anything illegal, I'm just saying we don't fully know yet.

techman1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120798791#Comment_120798791

I would say the journos are trying to quench this fire around the RTE scandal by denying it anymore oxygen than necessary. All this talk about breaking up RTE has them running scared . They probably realise that any bad publicity around Tubridy reflects badly on them all even if they don't work for RTE

pjordan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799152#Comment_120799152

Jees what's this, an judicial inquisition? You're a bit prickly yourself hiding behind your anonymous enigma of a username with your 15 posts. As it happens I was very impressed with ButterSukis insightful pointed post and mine is one of the thanks they referenced. I wouldn't regard my response to Buttersukis as critical at all so dunno where you got that impression (and I think Buttersukis is well able to speak for themselves without needing you to fight their battles for them)

I really don't know where you are coming from with the Blackrock and FF insinuations. Truth is there is and has always been a relatively small and very powerful innner circle of influence in Ireland which largely revolves around the geographical area of south Dublin (probably by now extending into salubrious parts of Wicklow, Kildare and Meath) colloquially termed "D4". These influential people move in the same social circles, they send their children to the same select schools and colleges. They have their tentacles firmly embedded in the political, legal, commercial and media spheres in Ireland and their networks are well interwoven through an old boys and old girls network where they consistently look after their own to the detriment and exclusion of others (I'm reminded of the late, darling of the media during the Celtic tiger years, the bould Seanie Fitz's appearance in court relating to the Anglo Irish scandal, after which he was welcomed with open arms into the law library, many of whose members I imagine he personally arranged loans or mortgages for). I'm not part of that network and have never aspired to and would never wish to be because, for what I've witnessed of it, to me it is an arrogant, vulgar and vacuous existence peopled by a lot of not very nice, self absorbed people. Anyway make of me what you will, I dont try to hide who I really am.

Hyperbollix

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799129#Comment_120799129

Yep, that's how I see it too. I've never viewed Tubridy as a "normal human being" ie someone who might be afflicted by all that's now going on. Everything about him over many years has given me sociopathic vibes to be frank. A fake persona built on kindness, decency, good will, blah blah blah, but the reality is very different.

I sincerely doubt, he's losing any sleep about it this whole fiasco. I'd put him in much the same bracket as the top bankers who broke the country in 2008. We even heard some on them on taped phone calls making derisory remarks about the government and basically concocting plans to fill them with lies about how bad the finances were and how big of a bail-out they could get from them. I see Tubridy in much the same hue. An arrogant, entitled, privileged little tosspot, that is only sorry because his little scheme with Noely and Dee was rumbled and the gravy train has now come to a shuddering halt.

If anyone is still suffering under the illusion that Ryan Tubridy is the character that he has portrayed on radio and TV, then just look at this statements since this broke and his continued radio silence. Speaks volumes. Zero remore. Zero shíts given. "I hope my old pals at RTE understand how sincere I am" Hah!

I hope the PAC don't just bluster and actually force him to lawyer up to avoid an appearance. It will be just another proof of who he is.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120799171#Comment_120799171

I get this. Plenty folks didn’t at all rate him , and he likely irritated plenty as well. But at least that was just a personal preference type view of him.

This fall is him being headline news day in day out for very negative reasons.

A serious damage to his brand, character and reputation. A serious fall.