RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

Cartman78

Tubridy's role during Covid?

He was a consumate delivery man of fawning, insincere distilled misery porn....feigning understanding and compassion with frontline workers and the public whilst trousering gigantic amounts of money

ednwireland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994665#Comment_120994665

this a joke right ?

I saw nothing of RT that stacks up with what you say.

but then again I don't think the late Late is worth the airtime and don't watch it.

humberklog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994514#Comment_120994514

I can only see Point 1 happening if Ryan keeps making bad decisions and doesn't accept some sensible advisory intervention.

There's a window left ajar for him in the distant future.

Whether that's an 8 parter of him An Oige hostelling in Ireland's Ancient East or exporing Connemara's Wild Life "a mix of stoats, stout and good ol' craic."

If he took a case against RTE it would be lose/lose/lose. No job in RTE ever again, further alienation of his base audience and, importantly, it would be a brave new employer who'd hire someone willing to sue them if you take their milk and cookies away.

I dont know how Point 2 could work unless Ryan has been as clean as a whistle throughout the affair.

Ryan's hubris, unwittingly, handed a head on a platter that KB really wanted. And that was Noel Kelly's head.

I think KB made that clear enough over the last 12 hours.

Sunny Disposition

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994688#Comment_120994688

He showed us that life could continue, but that an effort to stay apart would be required. He spoke to the country in a measured, respectful way while giving the best possible advice. It was a crucial intervention. It can never be quantified of course, but there's no doubt the pandemic would have been far worse if he hadn't been around.

During the pandemic he gave an expression to public upset, while never encouraging or endorsing abusive or violent behaviour. He also provided some top notch entertainment, showing that life could indeed be worth living at a traumatic stage in our history.

I'm sad to say, I don't think we'll see his likes again. It's too cynical an age for the likes of Ryan to prosper.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994561#Comment_120994561

I think you’ll be on your own here with that stance- in my view that position is wholly simplistic and it conveniently side steps many of the issues raised over the last number of months- yes he has done some good and if you subscribe to his version of cheese and condescension that has been his trademark on TLLS for the last number of years then fine, but I think anyone with a tither of sense have finally seen through the charade - it was always just brand Tubridy- he got away with - lord knows why considering the lambasting many of us gave him on the tv forum every Friday night - just because he was a major part of RTÉ for the last decade doesn’t mean everyone supported that- in the past the public supposedly wanted what the public got - now the public are now getting what the public wants.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120993865#Comment_120993865

Can’t wait for the Sean Quinn like interviews from his mansion

tobefrank321

The 3rd/most recent statement from Tubridy puts the blame all on RTE again. He's repeatedly done it since this all broke in June. No contriteness. All RTE's fault, nothing to do with me, when the reality is much different. 99% of people in RTE knew nothing about the secret tripartate deal including I'd imagine Bakhurst. So blaming RTE for that deal was never going to wash.

Tubridy will be able to mull over his mistakes for a long time. He basically wants to keep everything and for everyone to do his bidding. RTE have finally told him where to do.

Bakhurst's next move must be to hold the door ajar for a return but only if Tubridy ditches NKM, hands back the 150k, apologizes unreservedly and works for 170k.

And Bakhurst also needs to follow up in the next few days by pulling the plug once and for all on Tubridy's pay. If the door stays ajar indefinitely, Tubridy is paid and he gets to keep the 150k, this is the worst possible outcome, worse than him returning. There will be no incentive for Tubridy to hand back the 150k.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994666#Comment_120994666

Actually there’s his next project- a collection of letters sent to me by the public telling me how great I am 😀

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120993885#Comment_120993885

Yes, get another job elsewhere is a real directive that I’m in legal speak here. I’m saying nothing definitive and the door is not closed. But get another job…

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994194#Comment_120994194

Elegantly…. Mother a god…he shamed teenage girls and how they dressed

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994754#Comment_120994754

Are you not just a little unsure of where you stand on this question 😛? Joking aside But you know what, I couldn’t possibly criticise even one word you’ve said there.

arctictree

I dont get what all the fuss is about. The man is a contractor, his contract has been terminated. People talking about losing his job, he never had one in the first place! This is why the likes of George Lee are full time employees, they can just continue on.

ebbsy

And what about all the advertising Revenue that Tubs brought in ?

tobefrank321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994621#Comment_120994621

From memory Gaybo produced the LLS, possibly in the latter years. He had a strong say over who the guests were. Invariably many of the guests had strong personalities and were excellent raconteurs, although with an odd exception. He'd mostly let the guests do the talking and if he didn't like them, he'd ask loaded questions to get the response he wanted. Like you said he could react.

Interestingly Graham Norton has a similar style to Gaybo. He lets the guests recount funny stories. He asks loaded questions. Its a bit unpredictiable and anarchic like the original LLS was. And having all the guests on the couch at once is a great format, the original LLS was like that. Its like a pub atmosphere. You didn't get that with the LLS under Tubridy or Pat Kenny either. It became staid and predictable under them.

RoTelly

Anyway this now just put Ryan Tubrity's involvement to rest.

There are many in the media for some reason think he is the Messiah of the Media.

RTÉ now need to focus on content and governance.

Newstalk may want to talk to Tubs and VMTV might do a Saturday Night chat show with him, if they move quickly. But it is unlikely.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994070#Comment_120994070

They pay staff as much as contractors

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994815#Comment_120994815

I said eloquently not elegantly. And regardless of your diverting comment his articles were very well received particularly amongst parents of children with difficulties.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994883#Comment_120994883

Yes- very well received

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30742082.html

Oscar_Madison

So folks, what’s next for Tubridy and where? (genuinely interested in your views on this question btw)

If he made an independent production (say an Iroish documentary on west of Ireland living or other similar predicable gumphf) would RTÉ actually buy it or would they run a mile for fear of being seen to let Tubridy in a back door or something? TV3 might buy it but no one would watch it there😂

What about an EU funds sponsored show on BBCNI where Tubridy tells everyone how to “be kind”? 🤪

Im out of ideas but I just don’t see where he’d fit in right now. Just because you move stations to say Newstalk or Today, doesn’t mean your listenership will move with you- he’s been in a very overinflated bubble that was RTÉ public service broadcasting where he made private sector levels of money - he’s going to have a big wake up call .

Sigma101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994654#Comment_120994654

I don't believe he spent a penny on either legal or PR. He left that to NK management. If he had spent just a few hundred quid on his own PR advisor, that statement on Wednesday would never have been released and he would be back in his job in two weeks time.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994665#Comment_120994665

He was a fraud. Full stop.

Note the use of past tense.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994869#Comment_120994869

He didn't The Late Late Show and Radio 1 brought in the money.

He was on 2fm for 5 years, resulting in the station requiring a license fee funding for the first time in its history.

It is unlikely that the 9 to 10 slot on Radio 1 will see a massive fall in audience according to the research, the latest set of JNRL show little to no change in his audience as with most JNRL results.

Tubs will have to prove his worth else were and that is only on Newstalk, Today FM and VMTV.

Hyperbollix

Tubridy would be "bonkers" to pursue a legal avenue here. People normally take such expensive action to clear their good name as the repercussions of not doing so are themselves hugely expensive and damaging.

There is no upside for Tubs in going this route. He will slam that slightly ajar door in his own face and ultimately will make himself all the more unpalatable for any would be employers. Maybe most of all, it will be the final nail in the coffin of what standing he has left as, 'wheeze', Ireland's most trusted man. Any sign of that 150k Ryan?

What a marked contrast Tubs fiasco has been to Marty Morrissey. Ok, Marty was in the hapenny place in comparison, but he knew enough to make a fulsome apology and didn't dress it up as "a slightly unorthodox method of transport"

Had Tubs not been so deluded, he could be looking at a return in 2 weeks.

bureau2009

Next........Ryan talks EXCLUSIVELY to Niamh Horan in the Sindo .............

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994870#Comment_120994870

Yeah the couch panel discussion was a major factor of some of the great LLS’s of the past- I’ve said for many years now that that way of doing a show just worked and why did they insist on shelving it . Maybe it’s because you can no longer smoke and drink whilst on TLLS😀

Doc07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994561#Comment_120994561

I think this is what happens when you type ‘rubbish’ and ‘ejaculate’ into ChatGPT.

On the actual issue, RT is a very public glimpse of a deeper systemic problem with poor governance over many years in RTÉ. However, he was complicit and not naive to the special arrangement made for him (and don’t forget nobody else got this arrangement and we have no evidence anyone else asked for one) It was done so RT kept his full take home pay and RTE could pretend all the top earners were taking a pay cut , part of a now desperate former DG’s ‘strategy’ to look like she could reign in spending while going begging to government for more public money.

He is entitled to fight for his career and restore something of a good name, he’s not entitled to revisionism and alternative facts.

Westernview

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994901#Comment_120994901

Wow twitter users get enraged about something. Stop the press.

hawkwing

Hopefully Tubs decides to blow the whistle on many others in RTE out of spite and several more get caught out. K Thomas/Marty/Geary etc. Surely loads of them have crossed the line with dodgy dealings. He is probably the kind that would too...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994918#Comment_120994918

Kevin said the door wasn’t entirely closed so his selling them a documentary series wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibilities

jelutong

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120994665#Comment_120994665

I never listened to his radio show or watched the LLS and I’m still alive.