RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

Brendan Bendar

Maybe a bit off topic but given the thread ,maybe not.

Seems like the GAA pundits were kitted out in gear provided by clothing firms and well, were they getting moolah for the product placement?

Not sanctioned by RTE apparently .... as a certain poster says. de plot thickens

Id say this kind of stuff is endemic in RTE once one gets airtime of any kind it 'bathe your feet' bro

amacca

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121011246#Comment_121011246

Maybe he always was!

Always got a kind of stepford wife vibe off him...no one is really that kind!

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121007497#Comment_121007497

It's super impressive how someone that in terms of capabilities in his chosen career is completely lacking and a pure bluffer with no substance has earned that sum for the amount of effort put in. He would be eaten up on an international circuit.

Let that be a lesson people. Unbridled charisma & confidence gets you far in life. We seem to really overpay certain kinds in this country.

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121008630#Comment_121008630

The owl was on 200k a year. Got the bullet.

I like the new logo. Hopefully this change/rebrand steers the show away from it's usual misery to light Friday night entertainment.

toggle toes

GB News is a Mickey Mose channel. I don't know how many times it got wrapped round the knuckles for breaking Ofcom rules. Having said that it might be a stepping stone for Tubs towards something bigger.

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013281#Comment_121013281

More likely a stepping stone to obscurity

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121011242#Comment_121011242

I don't know why but I read your posts in Noel Kelly's accent. That first paragraph is exactly something he would say.

Brendan Bendar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013317#Comment_121013317

I don't know why anyone reads his posts

Karppi

GB News is so bad, it really is at the bottom of the food chain. It seems to me to be a home for disgruntled Tories who would like to move further right than Atilla the Hun

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/lee-anderson-loses-half-audience-30442964

RoTelly

https://www.irishtimes.com/media/2023/08/22/rte-journalists-say-inaction-and-not-the-current-crisis-has-crippled-the-organisation/

Same old BS from RTÉ staffers, and this is has completely spilled over to news media across the board.

funding public service media needs to be addressed “as a matter of urgency”

was “inaction that has crippled RTÉ, not the current crisis” and called for “an end to political cowardice”

what type of political cowardice?

on the issue of the organisation’s funding.

 concerned if politicians sought to use the current crisis to further delay decisive action”.

“We agree with the now widely held view that the licence fee system is a broken model.

funded sustainably through public funding and we are calling for public debate on a replacement 

The fall-out from the current crisis means this is now urgent. We cannot wait any longer.

Branch chair Emma O’Kelly said afterwards there was “a weariness” among the journalists over the governance scandal at RTÉ.

In other words we want the public to ignore the governance scandal at RTÉ and focus on how great we are and that if we had more funding with no commercial interest we'd be even better.

They go on to mention that the licence fee has not be increased since 2008, however fail to mention that they were given €10m extra in 2020, 2021, 2022, that in 2022 the NSO and choirs move the the NCH saving them €8m.

They seem to think RTÉ is doing a good job, and we should talk about content or governance or really talk to the audience.

RTÉ's inaction and bad governance has lead to where we are, it is time RTÉ faced up to that.

KevRossi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013196#Comment_121013196

The pundits are OK as long as they don't mention who kitted them out whilst doing the punditry work. If they want to do that on their Instagram channel then that's up to them. If they use photos from RTE that may be an issue, but probably nothing will be done about it.

They are true contractors, in that they all have full time jobs and do the punditry for a few hours a week during the League and Championship season.

In the same way I would never have associated Marty Morrissey with Renault, as he never mentioned it. Yes, he used the car during that programme he filmed, but I wouldn't be able to tell you afterwards what he drove.

You often see them mention where they got the clothes on Today, but i never heard them saying it was paid promotion.

yagan

Am I correct in thinking that there's no backdating fee if I'm brought to court for not having a TV license and then agree to pay it on the day?

If everyone did that the courts would be backlogged for years.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013550#Comment_121013550

You need to come to court with the licence fee paid I believe once the court summons is issued - also there’s no guarantee every judge will behave the same way that judge did a few weeks ago so not certain you won’t receive a conviction, especially if 10,000s flout the law- they’ll just get pizzed off and start convicting people - I’m leaving my licence fee to the last possible minute to pay - if they ask why I’ll tell them that because they kicked Ryan out, RTÉ lost 80% of its quality programming 🤪

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013550#Comment_121013550

I believe we should all renew on the same day across the country at our local post offices, queue up just to pay the fee, long queues out of very post office in the country, with just people getting ready to pay their fee. When the TV crews come around to ask why just simple say "Because its the law, it certain isn't for the service we receive". Let's make the 8th of December TV license fee payment day.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013196#Comment_121013196

Sure didn't Marty get off likely

hamburgham

Not sure John Brennan is doing much for his argument when he points out that the silence from Ryan’s colleagues has been deafening. Hilarious.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014032#Comment_121014032

What is with this type of comment on this thread?

People are going try to convince you otherwise, that's debate why stifle it on a particular part of a topic, that of bad governance in RTÉ and their waste of money.

I get the title of the thread, but the thread is about wider implications not just RT, those who support RT tend to not want to bog themselves down in the other parts of the discussion.

I am not saying the anti-Tubritites are much better but I see it more from the Tubritites.

stevejr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121012526#Comment_121012526

I'd say Kelly wishing everybody would forget the "godfather" moniker that he got his his minions to put out about him.

He's good at what he does, I'll give the man that much. Not that anyone would agree with his methods.

But what is he hoping to achieve you'd wonder. Unless they're all still drunk on the Kool-Aid in NKM, it's hard to understand. They must be wearing the same blinkers as the dead horse they're kicking.

PR and spin will only get you so far, they're trying to polish a turd at this stage.

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014080#Comment_121014080

Good at what he does? Didn't he say they basically just wrote a check for his clients no questions asked and he was basically unknown in RTE, not even offered a cup of tea when he was there

stevejr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014128#Comment_121014128

Yes, good at what he does. Up to a point.

I'll play devil's advocate for a turn. Hate the sin, but not the sinner, and all that jazz. In fairness to Kelly, there's not many a lad whose career would go from Cadbury's Rep to powerbroker in RTE in the space of 20 years or so. To give him his due, and in contrast to Turbridy, he also did it on his own by all accounts. A lot to be admired there.

Unfortunately for Kelly. He's fallen into the same old timeworn trap that many successful people fall into. It's a cliche at this stage.

Graft > Success > Complacency > Corruption > Delusion > Downfall.

We've seen it from Gulianni to Johnson and closer to home with everyone from Michelle de Brun to Bertie Ahern.

You wouldn't mind too much about Tubridy really. He has no talent or work ethic, so he doesn't actually have that far to fall.

But when it comes to people like those above, and Kelly. It's always a shame to see people with genuinely good qualities fail through corruption.

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014287#Comment_121014287

I'll give you that - came out of nowhere and ended up a controlling factor of most major personalities on RTE

stevejr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014032#Comment_121014032

No you'll more likely get jumped on for being discourteous out of the gate to people.

Tubridy is a public figure. He has been questioned by a public body and found wanting, in every sense of the word. Him and his agent have been caught rapid acting the bollix. They've been rightly critisized here on a Public forum for that. Ditto for the RTE Ponzi Scheme.

Brennans' comments are an attempt to defend the indefensible. He's pushing a narrative that the public isn't buying. This narrative is being driven by NKM and his stable. It is totally at odds with the facts.

So you're 100% entitled to nod along like Neddy the donkey if you want, keep giving it the big 'I AM'. But ultimately that sort of waffle and bluster will only getcha so far. Sure ask your mates, they'll tell you all about it.

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121013417#Comment_121013417

Might actually suit Tubs so.

He seems more Jacob Rees Mogg like than the Kennedy act he tries to emulate. He should focus on channeling his inner haunted pencil act.

KevRossi

If NK were to get Tubridy a spot abroad, would it be one of the first times that he's managed to get on of his 'stable' a job in the UK or the US? It's one of the things I always found very strange about his model. He stuck to Ireland, to RTE and TV3/VM over the years. Never any attempt to get people into better positions abroad.

Now I know he had a good system here, with just the two TV stations and a direct line to the tabloids and Sindo/Indo as well as any newer media groups that set up over the years. But surely a man with his ambition would have tried it abroad.

It almost looks like he actually hindered some of his better clients from developing themselves a bit more and getting better opportunities elsewhere. Why was he so reluctant to try an office in London, New York, Los Angeles?

I have a good idea of the reason, but can't say it here for risk of being banned.

Either way, he's down 6 figures per annum since the scandal broke, not sure how much more he'll lose over the next year or two.

mickdw

Is catriona Perry with Kelly? Big move to BBC to do the american job rte wouldn't allow her another go at.

Ahwell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014606#Comment_121014606

Yep...

https://www.nkmanagement.ie/talent.html

stevejr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014588#Comment_121014588

Ah he's hardly a Colonel Tom Parker, stopping a load his little Elvises from earning abroad.

If there were opportunities abroad for Kelly's crew, the ambitious ones. Those doors have been knocked on and closed, I'd say.

Real talent with an international appeal, the likes of Graham Norton and Terry Wogan, etc will always be snapped up abroad.

No presenter(a client-type Kelly seems to specialise in) of that calibre has come out of Ireland in a long time. Or if they have, they certainly haven't darkened Kelly's doorstep.

Caquas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121006835#Comment_121006835

The media misunderstood Callan’s comments. All the Irish press highlighted the “sense of wrong” remark as if Callan was saying Tubs had been wronged when clearly he was simply acknowledging the sense of scandal surrounding Tubridy’s departure.

Now the penny has dropped with Tubridy’s allies and Fionnán Sheahan has come out with fists flying at Callan. Is it a crime to want a cushy chair when it’s vacant?

John Brennan also has a misjudged attack on Bakhurst. Tubridy was a big supporter of the Brennans but he may not thank John Brennan for burning his bridges. And highlighting the deafening silence from other broadcasters. A bit rich for Brennan to lecture Bakhurst on treatment of staff. Did he ever pay the €90K to their general manager after the Labour Court recommendation?

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/fionnan-sheahan-oliver-callan-did-convincing-impression-of-being-desperate-for-ryan-tubridys-job/a646108780.html

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014648#Comment_121014648

He has Craig Doyle on his books and he would a big enough player on UK TV and one of the major favourites to take over from Philip Schofield on This Morning.

stevejr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121014655#Comment_121014655

You're right. I'd actually forgotten about Craig Doyle. I remember him of old, presenting the Olympics, I think it was, on the BBC. He seems to actually have some talent though appears to be a likeable enough.

How long will he remain loyal to Kelly though? NKM will be severely impaired by the fallout of all this. Kelly is frozen out.

And who wants an agent who has contributed to getting his best client fired?