Lana Del Rey - 3Arena - Friday 7th July

Wrongway1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120781072#Comment_120781072

Usually a general one is sent when you register interest with them. They send on that weeks presales that are going on.

However for this one they asked you to register interest in this specific show, they weren't sending them out automatically.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120781072#Comment_120781072

Mailing list on mcd website.

all the promoters here have mailing lists

Zardoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120780329#Comment_120780329

I presume they are in work at 10am too ? And 11 and 12 and so on.

Sean Seoighe

Can't get anyone I know to go to this (no accounting for poor taste, eh!) and very tempted to go along to this on my own

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120781674#Comment_120781674

Traditionally tickets on sale first thing o. A Friday either 9 or 10am. Will be a few shows going on sale at 10am too no doubt tomorrow

Sean Seoighe

Sold out?? Tried for 2 standing, then 1 standing, then 2 best available then 1 best available :(

Wrongway1985

Not sold out, demand is there at least to buy. They'll want to sell as many as platinum tickets and release "production holds" further towards the end of the week. I'm not paying €250 for a ticket to a gig.

Dmattmc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785868#Comment_120785868

Yeah those official platinum tickets are such a scam, especially after they advertised that the tickets would start from €70. There isn't a hundred euro difference in value between the front few rows of the red tiers of seating versus the back few rows of those same tiers. But that was the price difference, €130 for row 32 and €230-250 for row 21.

Suvarnabhumi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785852#Comment_120785852

My tactics too, not i'm hitting refresh for hours on end (for my niece, not me).

delbertgrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785915#Comment_120785915

The rear of the lower tier increased too. Block C, Row 30, €212. Block D, Row 31 (second last row of the lower tier), €227.

Wrongway1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120785915#Comment_120785915

Got offered back row of N for €80, am no.

You'd wonder where this flutter of €69 ones were?

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786079#Comment_120786079

Probably the restricted views ones at far sides upstairs.

Wrongway1985

€302 platinum has risen to, offered a standing ticket for that. Rough stuff. Wouldn't be rising if mugs weren't paying it I guess.

Stillill42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786198#Comment_120786198

Mother of God. For Lana del Rey??!! My young lad likes her, got 2 standing in the presale yesterday for 94 a pop with fees and was muttering under my breath about that but some of those prices, Christ almighty, where are we going with gig prices in this country. It's outrageous. How are young people supposed to get going on live music?

Sean Seoighe

Who's behind platinum tickets - 3arena, ticketmaster, MCD or Lana herself? Absolutely disgraceful. I bet there's zero transparency on what percentage of standing was at the 'standing price' and what was then subject to increasing costs

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786294#Comment_120786294

Ticketmaster facilities platinum tickets being sold.

agent/management of artist agree or disagree to platinum tickets being sold.

mcd asks artists agents do they want to allow platinum and roughly what % and promoter will receive a cut of the platinum sales as part of overall money for the show.

3 arena has no involvement in Platinum.

3 arena, ticketmaster and MCD are all live nation companies. So it’s one subsidiary chatting to another and ensuring that they capture as much money as possible from a show.

Zardoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786217#Comment_120786217

Its only going to get worse, prices are going to keep rising and the percentage of platinum/dynamic will keep increasing.

Someone has to pay Michael Rapino's salary.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/live-nation-ceo-michael-rapino-pay-jumps-to-139-million-2022-1235406039/

Toast

Also the limitations on transferring tickets if you can't go are getting worse. Can someone who actually got one of these let me know if the Transfer option is available or not?

Sean Seoighe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786455#Comment_120786455

Thanks for that!

delbertgrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786534#Comment_120786534

I got a standing ticket and the Sell and Transfer options are both available to me.

Zardoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786534#Comment_120786534

In the US they announce up front whether transfer will be available and if there is a delivery delay what date the tickets will be ready.

In Ireland and the Uk they just seem to ride roughshod over the consumer, no notification of when tickets will be ready and no notification of transfer not being available.

This is surely illegal.

Why are they placing these restrictions on Irish events, we have the strictest anti touting legislation in Europe, 100k fine and 2 years in jail and the likes of Viagogo and Stubhub don't list Irish events.

Ninap

I have tickets too and while it has the ‘transfer’ and ‘sell’ boxes, they are not operational yet. And may not be. We’ll have to wait and see

Wrongway1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786534#Comment_120786534

They want you to go back on the platform to sell the tickets to benefit from another few fees.

The next thing is to introduce the morphing barcode so selling on at face value on toutless,ticketswap,adverts or whatever won't be possible.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786623#Comment_120786623

It’s not illegal. It’s in t&c’s that transfer and resale options are not guaranteed and that’s it’s up to discretion of promoter/artist to allow those options.

they are placing those restrictions in order to minimise touting.

if you don’t allow transfer until a short window you greatly reduce the attractiveness for a tout to buy tickets as they only have a day or two to unload all the tickets.

it makes it a pain to be a professional tout

Toast

The morphing barcodes are here. To be clear I am the admin from Toutless so we are already having to figure out what people can expect to be able to do with their tickets. What annoys me is that if they had their own resale option always available I'd accept the argument of not allowing a way out of their system but this option is also just randomly disabled for some events or a couple days before most.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786735#Comment_120786735

well you can always sell on toutless and transfer it across (even if morphing code).

selling on screenshots will no longer work

Conversations 3

Anyone wants to offload 2 seating tickets I'm available to take them off your hands

Wrongway1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786767#Comment_120786767

No no no!! Just stop.

It makes it a breeze to be a professional tout, TM is king tout and to suggest they care about anti tout measures is nothing but utter delusion. selling face value set price tickets for over 4 times the price. They used to pretend they were seatwave now no need the operation has been smooth sailing regardless.

scruff monkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786198#Comment_120786198

I would expect dinner and a hug for that price.

Zardoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786767#Comment_120786767

Its a grey area.

In the Uk there is a law, The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 Act.

It states:

A trader will be committing an offence if it does any of the following:

• omits material information that the average consumer needs, according to the context, to make an informed decision about a transaction
• hides or provides material information in an unclear, unintelligible, ambiguous or untimely manner

Not stating that transfer will not be enabled at purchase is definitely a breach of this.

Not stating that there will be a delivery delay is also a breach of this.

The UK Consumer Marketing Authority have also been clear on this in the past, its no good hiding stuff away in the terms and conditions, it has to be upfront on the main purchasing page.

So what Ticketmaster are doing is illegal in the UK, I'm not sure if there is similar legislation here bit I'd imagine there is.