BBC Scandal - Huw Edwards formally suspended over payment of explicit images of teenager Read OP*

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449444#Comment_122449444

You're the only person trying to suggest the mental ill health caused the attraction to children. His wife didn't say it, you inferred it for reasons known only to yourself.

cap.in.hand.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449530#Comment_122449530

It may be a mental dysfunction that causes that attraction

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449555#Comment_122449555

Stop digging. Just say you haven't got a clue, made a spurious inference, and realise it was a silly thing to do.

Gusser09

I absolutely think he will see jail time. Probably 3-6 months. Sex crimes against children should always carry a mandatory custodial sentence.

cap.in.hand.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449561#Comment_122449561

Never said I had...nor have you....

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449574#Comment_122449574

Sure. I didn't make spurious claims.

cap.in.hand.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449634#Comment_122449634

So he has no mental issues according to you?

odyssey06

I'd imagine his mental health was in turmoil from when he feared news of this scandal would break, either the original scandal which just looked sleazy and inappropriate - or these offences.

We don't have to look any deeper than that to explain his wife's comment.

nacho libre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449492#Comment_122449492

According to a previous poster there is no real prospect of a Jail sentence because he didn't share the images with others. I suppose it doesn't really matter, as you say he has lost his wife and most people won't want to have anything to do with him. When he is put on the register will he be prevented from living abroad ?

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449681#Comment_122449681

That's not remotely related to anything I said.

I take them at their word he has had poor mental health. I didn't infer that it is a reason why he did what he did (which is the claim you made for some reason). It's incredibly simple.

El_Duderino 09

Definitely the most likely scenario.

The realisation that he's likely to face the consequences for his actions, along with the pain and suffering he caused to the victims, and the fact that everyone will know what he did, his family being tarnished by association with him, his marriage and family life and career are over. That would be a horrible realisation.

No sympathy for him, obviously. But that would cause anyone to have a mental breakdown

Jinglejangle69

I don’t get it.

He texted the other man saying don’t send him and underage pics.

Does that not hold up in court?

volchitsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449220#Comment_122449220

The BBC knew that there were serious criminal allegations by at least November, according to the Independent just now.

The corporation admitted it knew Edwards had been arrested ‘for a serious offence’ in November

if Owen Jones knows anyone in the media world, presumably he knew it too. But in any case the BBC has serious questions to answer about his pay rise while off on leave.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449778#Comment_122449778

Do The Sun know people in the media? Why didnt they mention it do you think?

November is months after the original scandal broke and the Owen Jones comment.

Doesnt alter anything about his criticism of The Sun.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449758#Comment_122449758

One, he continued to possess them.

Two, he kept in conversation with the person who sent them for over a year after receiving them.

Three, he discussed the photos with this person.

Four, he didn’t report this person who sent him the pics.

Five, he pleaded guilty - exactly what should the courts have taken into account.

There’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that he willingly participated in this activity.

However don’t see him going to jail - a suspended sentence of a few years coupled with sex offender register or whatever they have over there. Judge will mention massive fall from grace breakup of his family unit no chance of any career in future and ongoing public humiliation maybe coupled with ongoing mental instability if supported by medical evidence - that’s all assuming classed as low risk of reoffending and good probation report .

He’ll be hounded by the tabloids no matter where he lives - if he has the money may head abroad to live although may be prevented in many countries

volchitsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449813#Comment_122449813

But they didn’t have to mention it. They didn’t get it wrong, Jones did so the onus was on him to withdraw his claims that there was no criminality involved. He didn’t have to go into any detail, just say that he jumped the gun in that article.

Doesn’t anyone care about journalists just making sh1t up as long as it’s a journalist they generally agree with?

cap.in.hand.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449744#Comment_122449744

Do experts ever find out the REAL REASON ..why ?

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449842#Comment_122449842

He didnt make anything up. He accurately reported in good faith based on the public statements of two police forces. He didnt jump any gun. The information about Edwards only became "official" recently.

Was he supposed to wait for that? The suggestion would be absurd.

The Sun themselves also publicly said they had no evidence of criminality after their early claims were queried.

So why didnt The Sun disclose it in November? Or the BBC? And if they didnt why on earth would you expect Jones to?

Jones did nothing wrong.

dublinman1990

Times Radio has reported some breaking news on the story about the current case surrounding Huw Edwards.

London's Metropolitan Police has confirmed in a statement this evening that a man named Alex Williams, who is 25 years old from Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, has been named as the distributor of indecent images of children to former BBC Broadcaster Huw Edwards.

This 25 year old man who sent images to Huw Edwards Whatsapp account is a convicted paedophile. He was already given a 12 month suspended sentence at a Crown Court in Wales for these offences before he sent the offending images to Huw Edwards Whatsapp account.

There is more info here about the story from Times Radio on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUhp2hepVyg

political analyst

It appears that Edwards started committing these crimes during lockdown. If he didn't commit such offences before that, why would he only start doing it at this late stage in his life?

political analyst

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449909#Comment_122449909

It's bizarre that Edwards didn't delete the illegal images from his phone.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449758#Comment_122449758

Probably no more defence than when a drunk driver tells the judge he didn't want his pal to buy another pint, then drank it and drove anyway.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449859#Comment_122449859

The real reason for what?

nachouser

Writing on X this morning, Jones said: "Huw Edwards has pleaded guilty to illegal pictures of indecent pictures of children - in other words, pictures of child abuse.

"This is a vile crime. This is, as the Metropolitan Police say, completely separate from other claims, which is what I tweeted about last year."

It's daft to bring Jones into the conversation.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449989#Comment_122449989

He summarised the info available at the time. And there's more information so he's summarising that info now.

I think it takes a refusal to understand something so simple.

AllForIt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448616#Comment_122448616

No, the point of posting the tweet what not to suggest that Jones was supporting Edwards as innocent, it was that he lambasted The Sun for publishing the story and saying they did so without regard for Edwards wellbeing.

You'd have to be very naive to believe anything The Sun said publicly on this because they are never in a million years to to tell you what it was they knew or didn't know. They are never going to tell you how they got their information especially if they acquired it by dubious means rather than an informant. They could put out an apology as part of a narrative knowing what is really going on behind the scenes is a whole different story.

It is beyond incredulous that The Sun didn't know something about Edwards that led them to go with the first story. It is incredulous to think that is was just a coincidence that 'a fake story by the sun' is of the exactly same nature as the one he's in the news for today. Don't you think? What would be the chances of it being a coincidence? Zero IMO.

I'm not suggesting Jones was supporting Edwards as innocent, he doesn't have to condemn Edwards for his crimes personally, what he could do is say perhaps The Sun weren't being as irresponsible as he said they were, because he doesn't know what the Sun knew or didn't know as I said, and we're never going to know either. Perhaps if The Sun had published stories about Jimmy Saville even if they weren't technically accurate when we know there were rumours he might have been arrested sooner.

And of course Jones works for The Guardian, the Sun's rival. There is no way Jones doesn't know how it works in press so I don't buy this 'he was only going by the information that was out there' line. The Sun has been totally vindicated.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449758#Comment_122449758

Does that not hold up in court?

Nothing holds up in court when you don't contest the charges.

The Judge may take it into consideration when sentencing.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122450033#Comment_122450033

The Sun themselves backtracked on any claims of criminality. Their information related to sleazy inappropriate conduct.

They didnt say... and we have passed information on potential criminal acts.

And they have made no such claims trying to exonerate themselves eg we helped bang up the nonce. Thats how The Sun speaks.

Two police forces publicly stated that based on that early info there wasnt evidence of a crime.

And if The Sun did have such infornation and sat on it, that would be a crime here and maybe in UK. But either way it points to them not having the info.

This point was alreasy put to you and you had no response.

This angle is nonsense.

nachouser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122450033#Comment_122450033

Hasn't aged well, in fairness.

nachouser

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