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Dan Wootton

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  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭DAngelo Bailey


    The guardian are reporting on this now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell



    Of course it does. He allegedly berated 'straight' staff as being in denial of their 'gay' tendencies, claiming everyone is at least bisexual to some degree. His alleged 'honeytraps' were aimed at enticing men in general to 'perform' in his vids with other men, 'giving in' to these supposed secret samesex inclinations. He's long associated and now sides with rightwingers, many of whom are homophobics / homo-haters, whatever their own sexuality



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    No. Wootton being gay or his victims being gay is not what made him a c***. He just used their sexuality to trap them but no matter what, he still would have shown us all what he is somehow or another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    More information coming out.

    Utter scumbag, I see a number of his mates are deleting tweets in support of him, rats and a sinking ship spring to mind...




  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Nana Akua a GB news colleague.

    Her tweet about his "fundraiser" has now been quietly deleted.

    Adam Brooks another GB news colleague has done similar.

    Simon Jones (PR) has deleted pretty much any trace of him.

    He has pretty much deleted all his own tweets.

    Yet he is still on GB news and they still aren't reporting the story...compare and contrast with the Huw Edwards/Schofield coverage they had...



  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell


    As soon as Edwards was named - by his wife's lawyers - the entire media stf and total silence has continued ever since!

    In such a climate, its hardly a surprise that silence has so far been extended to Dan.

    Anyway, now Byline have attacked GB News' boss with allegations against him, that's likely made it more likely they'll reinforce their defense of Dan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I named some of his "mates" who are rolling back their support as you asked no reaction to that?


    RE Edwards and his name being released by his wife, It was reported on for a while after (before and after by the BBC itself) but I don't think there was much more to report on, the news cycle moved on, but his career is ruined let's be honest. Also the fact the person involved said nothing illegal happened etc, (the sun could be in legal difficulty by looks of it). I think other news outlets wouldn't want to open themselves up to similar.

    Compare and contrast with the Wootton stuff there are a long line of people coming forward. Yet not a single mention on the channel that he is on outside of him saying dark forces are out to get him....lol



  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell


    OK, I was gonna leave it, give you benefit of the doubt, but as you insist: cite specific comments and link to them.

    There was and is plenty to report on: did Huw do what he was accused of? How old was the alleged exploited teen? What connections are there between Huw and the teen, given that the teen's seemingly being represented by the same highpowered lawyers who represent Huw's wife?

    Did Huw really enter mental institution? Is he still there? The alleged teen, via lawyers, said the Sun story was false. 'They' - it seems the teen is likely trans - didn't deny 'illegality'.

    A long line of anonymous accusers alleging mostly trivial tripe. Which says as much or more about their patheticness, as it does about Dan's alleged actions. Par for the gutter-press course.

    They talk trash; Dan talks trash; GB News talk trash.

    So what?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,603 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    And there's the whataboutery.

    Why don't you prove your claim that Byline Times attacked people. Go on.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Give me the benefit of the doubt lol....Look at the people who I mentioned Twitter/Instagrams plenty of people calling them out, tweets are never really deleted and plenty of screenshots.

    Queue the whataboutery lol. Edwards as far as I know has a long history of mental health issues.The person involved said nothing illegal happened I am pretty sure? The sun ran the story initially and dug in, the parents also took a sum of money from talk tv seemingly, I am sure the truth will out.

    The majority of his accusers are not anonymous, he also hasnt denied the multiple accounts and the other accusations which is telling. Read the byline times string of articles they are damning. Why are GB news protecting him still and won't even cover it?!? Even the mail have suspended/fired him.

    Post edited by gmisk on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Just so you don't have to give me the benefit of the doubt.

    Simon Jones has deleted pretty much any trace of his mate Dan (who was all over it at one stage) from his Instagram as well, do you need me to link that one too?



  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭DAngelo Bailey




  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell


    I appreciate your effort; you're a very rare exception;; most of my requests are ignored.

    Seems you're right about Nana but wrong about Brooks, who still appears on Dan's show and still has a link to Dan's response on his twitter-feed:

    I despise and have nothing to do with Instgram, so don't bother.

    What's this Jones guy got to do with GB News?



  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell


    Edwards has, allegedly, suffered periods of depression.

    We've heard nothing directly from 'them' - it seems from the mother's carefully worded references to 'my child' that this person is 'trans' - just an alleged quote from 'their' alleged lawyers (the same high-powered expensive elite ones used by Edwards' wife) that the claims were .rubbish'; whatever that means.

    There's no evidence the mother and step-dad have been apid; just one more allegation.

    'I am sure the truth will out'?! That's absurd. It rarely does.

    The media is full of mistakes, misrepresentations, coverups, highly-selective subjective snippets, lies, distortions; rarely truth or facts.

    What's happened to BBC reporters own investigation? Suddenly silenced, like all the other MSM outlets.

    'Sitting in Mr Edwards' own chair on News At Ten, his stand-in Reeta Chakrabarti informed the nation about claims the star – not then named – had 'threatened' and 'bullied' a young person he had met on a dating app with allegedly menacing messages. Then there was a further wounding blow from BBC reporters who revealed claims of inappropriate behaviour to staff. It was the fifth case to come to light in as many days'

    Most Byline's accusers are anonymous; if you've read all 9 parts like me, you must know that, so let's not kid ourselves, eh?

    All 5 in the part1; all in part 2; Truby was later revealed as the anon in part 3; more anons in more parts until finally, we get 2 more names on the record: Kirk Norcross and JJ Bird, whs' allegations amount o very little; Dan asked them to pose for some modelling shots; so what? Sneaky, sleazy, but they're adults and both drew the a line when what he wanted was further than they wanted to go.

    The last part concerns other GB News employees - including the boss - and again, all are anonymous allegations



  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell


    They've attacked Dan, bigtime, as parts 1-8 prove. In part 9 they widen their attack to the GB News CEO specifically, and other as yet unknowns



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,603 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell


    Byline allege Dan bribed at least 20 men; harassed men; blackmailed men; sent malicious communications to men; bullied, abused, exploited, humiliated and discriminated against selected staff, undermining some and making their work life intolerable, to a point where he prevented them continuing.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,603 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Still nothing.

    If it was an attack, there'd be a clear case for libel.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 raynehell


    Those are all examples of attacks; go get a kindergarden-level dictionary and learn some elementary English



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,603 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They're not. Since you're reduced to this, I'm considering this debunked and leaving it there.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He's perfectly free to sue if the allegations are untrue but it seems pretty clear the investigation unearthed a lot. Also I'm finding it pretty funny watching somebody get on the defensive for Wooton being attacked when his career has amounted to bullying of public figures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I see the GB news lawyers and Dan Wootton (or should I say Martin Branning?!? Alleged sex offender) (Who laughs and smirks throughout) Have apologised for the below from Laurence Fox (who they platform), I am sure a thorough investigation awaits...lol...what an absolute cesspit.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭maik3n


    I think we might have another Glinner situation on our hands

    While Fox's behaviour here was/is disgusting to say the least and is the primary issue, the unfortunate thing is this might claw back a bit of undeserved good will for Wooton since he has come out against it so quick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,095 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


     the unfortunate thing is this might claw back a bit of undeserved good will for Wooton since he has come out against it so quick.


    Not sure about that. Fox is claiming that GB News knew what he was going to say beforehand, as he brought it up in his pre-interview that was a dry-run of the topics he'd cover in the broadcast. Wootton only condemned it after the fact - as the comments were being made, he was smirking and nodding. Fox earlier Tweeted that Wootton shouldn't be attacked for Fox's comments, but now he's clearly landing them in it with him.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭maik3n


    Hehe, believe you me. I hope that it's not the case.

    I know Wooton is full of sh*t and he is not coming out against Fox for any virtuous reason. I'm just thinking that from a basic optics level though, people will just see a headline saying ''Wooton takes on Fox'' and it might defray even a little bit of the st1nk from the allegations surrounding him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Good will for Wootton? Why? he nodded and laughed on air...his grovelling "apology" were nonsense, Fox showed the text messages he sent him lol. He is doing his best to take Wootton with him ha...good.


    Given the accusations against Wootton no way should he be on air, his channel avoiding the topic is hypocrisy given their coverage of Schofield and Edwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭Penn




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,603 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    GB News pretending to have principles is truly pathetic. They hired these people because they're malevolent c*nts, not in spite of it.

    The thing with being edgy is that you have to be coming up with new ways to do it or you get stale.

    The sooner this tumour of a "channel" ends up in the hazardous waste bin, the better.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    There seemed to be a lot of people tweeting about reporting it to Ofcom (which I did). I suspect it is because of the pending official backlash that he has been suspended.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,996 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    GB news becoming woke and now are virtue signalling with this move. Haha. If they were consistent they'd stand by Fox. Wootton comes across as an disingenuous creep in that video. Just look at his leering and smirking face during the exchange with Fox.

    Post edited by nacho libre on


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    It is the perfect example of double standards within our utopian cancel culture.

    All Fox’s comments went OTT for sure , why was there not as much as a peep out of the cancel cheerleaders when Ava Evans made these toxic feminist comments not too long ago ?

    https://youtu.be/C0ARTJRYNZk?feature=shared



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,156 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    What is the point of GBNews if its starting to pretend to be in any way reputable?

    The stations whole purpose of the channel was to hoover up the controversial rejects no one else would go near?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    If they don't toe the line the could finish up like RT.

    "If a broadcaster breaks the rules repeatedly, or in a way we consider to be serious, Ofcom has the legal powers to impose sanctions on them. Possible sanctions include a substantial fine, shortening or even taking away the channel or station's licence to broadcast. We publish all Sanctions Decisions on our website."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,676 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Someone made a very serious accusation against Wootton over on Twitter, if its true I don't understand why the cops aren't investigating the claims.

    Not sure if I'm allowed to say what the accusation is but its similar to what Weinstein was convicted of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭maik3n


    Do you mean a new accusation or are you talking about the stories out there already?

    GB News seem to have given up on their freedom of speech bonafides and are now indulging in some cancel culture.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Well she got 400 messages all saying they'd shag her, so that cancels that out then.

    Anyway, couldn't happen to 2 nicer guys.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,271 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Laurence Fox is a free speech parasite.

    Fox pretends to be a free speech advocate. It's no different to Katie Hopkins or Milo Yiannopoulos. It's all an act, and the usual unthinking masses lap it up.

    Being rude and crass and nasty doesn't make you a free speech advocate, it means you're a d***.

    I never liked him. I have always found him fake and dishonest and actually, intellectually weak and quite stupid. There is no original thinking; he's just a loudmouth who got lucky from being platformed on Question Time.

    Fox is a failed actor, a failed politician and - from this latest episode - a failed human being, too.

    The sooner Fox goes away, the better for everyone. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,492 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Oh No




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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,603 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Excellent news.

    In my experience, so-called "free speech advocates" just want to be arseholes without consequences. Nice to see some at long last.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Laurence Fox released a lengthy, essay-like tweet earlier today. The man is so self-absorbed up his own narcissism and sense of self-importance, it's utterly nauseating.

    Fox concluded his essay with the following:

    On a final note, we should all ask ourselves if this is a society we want to live in, where the cancel mob reign and your only chance at existence is total and utter capitulation to their whims.

    Fox portrays the controversy in very grandiose language.

    In reality, Fox - like Milo and Hopkins before him - think that being a nasty d*** is what free speech is all about.

    Well, it isn't for me. Long may his downfall continue.

    There's nothing to respect about Fox who is, after all, nothing more than a fake edgelord nuisance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭foxsake


    one could be precious and claim everybody who says things one doesn't like is an arsehole. in those circumstances you'd be right.

    But in normal society your claim is incorrect and you should try meet more people to enhance your experience.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fox is free to express his views and opinions, but it's the deeply unpleasant way in which he expresses them that lands him in trouble.

    Would I want to have someone like Fox in my life "to enhance my experience"? Absolutely not.

    I'd want nasty, unpleasant people like that as far away from me as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Tis an odd day when I find myself in full agreement with you, @[Deleted User] yet here we are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,492 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,603 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Saying my claim is incorrect does not make it so.

    If you think that people like Fox enhance one's life, well, that's your opinion I suppose.

    I'd be keen to hear some of these alleged benefits but I've been here long enough not to expect any.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭RavenBea17b


    I'm sure the woman the two of them were total creeps about was a commentator panellist on the Piers Morgan show yesterday, she mentioned she had been contacted, texted by Dan W that evening apologising for what had happened, but she hadn't responded at the time to him, but to find yesterday morning, it felt like a false apology, or that she felt that way.

    IMHO , as unpleasant as Laurence is, Dan is just another level of yuk - an enabler in a position of power.



  • Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Madd Finn


    Just as a matter of interest, are there any women here (or even men; let's be inclusive) who would consider shagging Laurence Fox?

    There's no accounting for taste.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Not sure there's anyone here but Billy Piper did, at least twice, which is still really odd that she saw something in him, maybe he wasn't always the way he is now.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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