Time to switch from GP 5000s ?

How Soon Is Now · 28-07-2023 8:49am #1

I've had them since October last year and I have mixed feelings about them. Grip is usually very good in all kinds of conditions yeah the back gets a bit slippy at times but nothing ridiculous. There nice and quick and feel great on the road when everything is running as it should but... I am just getting far to many nicks marks and flat tubes with them. I've had two flats and both front and back wheels have little holes and marks in them. I'm cycling around Dublin city mostly these days so the roads are in bits pot holes cracks glass etc.

I'm wondering should i stick with these or switch to say 4 seasons or even try 5000 all seasons?

nicksnikita · 28-07-2023 9:12am

4 Seasons would be a better shout for city cycling on roads with debris etc..

The GP5000s do cut up a bit easily but I find them great on open roads in all conditions

How Soon Is Now · 28-07-2023 1:54pm

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Yeah they started to get patchy far to quickly. If they where tougher and I wasn't on so many **** roads I wouldn't have any issues with them. I see a lot of reviews saying the 4 seasons ride slower but I'm hardly gonna notice this cycling through around Dublin city and through greenways?

How Soon Is Now · 28-07-2023 2:58pm

Continental Grand Prix 5000 All Season Road Tyre | Chain Reaction (chainreactioncycles.com) these for 50 each would surely be the best option??

Feck these are tubeless so I guess its 4 seasons or nothing.

Squidgy Black · 28-07-2023 3:39pm

You can use a tube with those just fyi, they’re not tubeless only. But from reading reviews they’re only slightly better than regular GP5000 for punctures so I probably wouldn’t bother I’d go for the regular 4 seasons

Paddigol · 28-07-2023 3:42pm

I've capitulated and gone back to Scwalbe Durano Plus as my all-weather/ all-riding tyre of choice. Never let me down and can't say I've had any issues in the wet. They're not the sexiest, but I've lost all confidence in my Vittoria Corsa N.exts. They just don't last long enough and I find myself waiting for the next puncture. Not worth it for me. €50 for a pair incl. delivery on bike24.com

Schwalbe Durano Plus Wire Bead Tire - Performance | Addix | Smart Guard - E-25 - 25-622 | Black (bike24.com)

sanjbmw2001 · 28-07-2023 8:49pm

You could give Cinturato Velo a go.

These are endurance tyres, so little slow but longevity and puncture resistance is A1.

They suit me as I don't race but like long rides and commuting and for that purpose these tyres are fantastic.

They also get a great rating on BRR.

rolling boh · 29-07-2023 2:18pm

From my expierance of cycling around the back roads of Meath and further the durano plus do the job well .They are fine if you are just cycling not racing of course have the conti 5000 on the better bike but them and the four seasons have punctured on a couple of occasions .

MojoMaker · 01-08-2023 6:41pm

Moved over from GP5Ks to Schwalbe Pro Ones a couple of years back - noticeably less punctures now, no loss in speed or grip. Lovely tyre.

CramCycle · 02-08-2023 8:18am

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I had the opposite experience, my GP4000S were end of life and I was stuck for time so picked up a pair of Schwalbe pro ones from LBS. Only lasted a few weeks the wear was so bad on them. This said the first batch of GP5000 I got were woeful, and I went on a hunt for GP4000S to build up a store of them for commuting but the next GP5000 were brilliant and every pair since has probably done me 10k with maybe only 2 or 3 punctures on each. Having learned my lesson from the GP4000, once they start to puncture more than 3 times in a short period, it is time to move on.

Paddigol · 02-08-2023 9:36am

Just on the casual spins v racing thing... any racers notice real differences between a semi-racy tyre like the N.exts or the GP5000s versus something like Durano Plus? I tend to act as the broom wagon on club league races and can guarantee that my performance wouldn't be improved a jot by switching to proper race/ semi race tyres... the lack of training sees to that. If I was trying to place in races I might be concerned, but I'm far more bothered with having to stop to change tubes cos a sharp bit of loose chipping sliced my sidewalls.

CramCycle · 02-08-2023 12:57pm

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Not in overall speed, whatever the differences there are, they aren't obvious in the stats for me. Where I have noticed a difference is grip barrelling into corners. The current stock of GP5000 I can lean into like I am doing competitive GP motorbiking. I can take the bottom corner in Corkagh Park at 10+kmph faster than some A1s. I mena they drop me on the straightaways but I have supreme confidence in them to hold me as much as the laws of physics will allow.The same for braking, it's a small difference and it depends on the situation but I feel more confident on my GP5000s.

andyd12 · 08-12-2023 11:28pm

Hi, slightly off topic.

But how are GP5000 clincher(non tubeless ready) to fit onto a rim? I heard the tubeless version are very difficult.

Similarly how are pirelli p zeros to fit?

CramCycle · 08-12-2023 11:48pm

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Depends on the rims, I've had no issues with mine but others have with different wheels.

andyd12 · 09-12-2023 12:39am

Ok thanks.

I have some Hunt aluminum rim brake wheels

CramCycle · 09-12-2023 1:11pm

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I had mine on a pair of Hunt Aero Alu's. Had to really insure the bead was in the central ridge to get the last but over and then it was fine. Certainly not the toughest to do but can't guarantee as HUNT rims will change by generation of wheels .

andyd12 · 09-12-2023 6:12pm

Thanks, this is what I want to avoid, trying to to avoid having to wrestle on the side of road😑

CramCycle · 09-12-2023 8:04pm

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On my Newman's (two different types), I got them on without tyre levers, with the HUNTs I needed a lever but only one. Where are you based I could give you an old one to practice. I have loads due to stupidly buying new ones every racing season so have a ton of back up commuter tyres

dahat · 09-12-2023 8:18pm

Cram is correct in saying it’s the one tyre where you need to ensure the bead ins centered for ease of getting one back on. Once you get the knack it’s less difficult.