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2023 UCI Road World Championship Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Orn-Kristoff is 19 years younger than his brother



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    His brother who seems to have been 36 years old for 10 years now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    in the downhill oisin 12th.

    home win for gbr Charlie hatton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    Possibly not. That makes sense actually now that you say it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Not sure how he's form is but Laporte is not a bad bet at 25/1



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Pog has a way of surprising us, but I can’t give him a chance in this at all. I think it’ll be a sprint from a small group. Looks made for for Pederson v Philipsen v Wout.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭dahat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Could Ben Healy have a chance of making the medals?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Yes but an outside one. He would need a number of things throughout the day to work out.

    Look at something like the 2012 Olympics which was "made for Cav" but the race situation went against the script one the day (yes Olympics are harder to control).

    Or when Rui Costa won and it seems like everyone who mattered crashed except 2 Spanish riders who wouldn't work together.

    Pedersen in Yorkshire was a rain soaked surprise too.

    If Healy gets in a late split and the course is so technical that it nullifies the sprint trains then it's very possible. But you could probably say that about a ton of riders.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    I think the winning move will come from a solo attack about 30-50 km from the finish. I don't think even a small bunch will contest the win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    It would be a big surprise - he's only raced three races since the Giro, all in the last 2 weeks and all DNF. Course would suit him, though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    The podium from Flanders this year- Pog, MvdP, Pedersen- that to me is the top 3 to look for tomorrow. The Belgians will cannibalise each other and cancel each other out perhaps. Like many commentators, I cannot see any kind of group sprint finish, this will be like the hardest of any one day classic and I will be surprised if any Irish rider is in contention with 2 laps to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Well it wouldn't be unlike MvdP to attack from that far out either...

    Or Pog...

    Or Wout...

    Or Ben Healy 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    Comments from riders from cycling news

    ==============

    The biggest nations and some leading contenders for Sunday’s men’s road race have expressed serious concerns about the Glasgow Road World Championships course. 

    Most riders carried a reconnaissance ride on Friday and then watched the junior men and junior women races on Saturday to understand the key points of the 14.3km circuit. 

    Fortunately, the weather forecasts have improved in the last 24 hours with rain no longer expected on Sunday but the riders’ concerns about safety remain.  

    Matteo Trentin, the leader of the Italian team joked that all the twists and turns left him with a headache, while in private riders had more serious concerns about some of the off-camber corners, sand on the road from leaking sandbags and lack of protection where crashes are likely to occur.  

    “They’ve managed to make it even more technical than 2018 and I didn’t think that was possible,” Trentin, who won the European Championships on a similar course in 2018, told La Gazzetta dello Sport. 

    “The route map doesn’t show how hard it really is. You’re always going in and coming out of corners. It gives you a headache, it’s a cyclocross race on the road, with no chance to stop for a pee. If you have a puncture or even worse a crash, you’ll need a lap to get back on.”     

    "The course reminds me of a city criterium," Belgium’s Jasper Philipsen said. 

    He rode five criteriums after the Tour de France but joked he should have done more to prepare for the Glasgow circuit. 

    The 271.1km elite men’s road race starts in Edinburgh and covers a 120 km sector in the Scottish countryside to reach Glasgow. The elite men then cover ten laps of the 14.3km circuit, with a total of 3,570 metres of climbing. 

    The city centre circuit twists and turns, climbs and descends through the streets westwards towards Kelvingrove Parks and then returns to the city centre for the short but steep climb of Montrose Street (200 metres at 8.5%) just 11.5km from the finish. 

    There are so many corners on the circuit that nobody can agree on the exact number. Some teams said 44, 45 or even 48. Whatever the true number, the riders will face almost 500 corners in the final 150km of the race.       

    “After two laps of the recon ride, I had no idea where the climb was," Julian Alaphilippe admitted to L’Equipe. “I was disoriented and Sunday with the public, it will be worse.” 

    Benoît Cosnefroy appears to have a love-hate relationship with the course. 

    “The person who designed this course has problems. They were perhaps drunk and nobody told them they’ve gone too far with the craziness,” he suggested, yet he changed his mind after his own recon ride. 

    “I love this course, it suits how I like to race, it’s great for the puncheurs.” 

    Florian Sénéchal was not so amused. 

    “It's dangerous for a Worlds. I would have thought they would be more serious about safety. I like a race when it's technical but in terms of respect for the riders, it's not great,” he said. 

    Valentin Madouas suggested the best riders will have to make 80 major efforts of 15-20 seconds on the ten Glasgow circuits. The last perhaps comes on the final climb of Montrose Street, when someone attacks to try to win alone.  

    “It's very, very hard, harder than I thought, and harder than in Leuven in 2021,” Madouas said. 

    Mathieu van der Poel impressed television crews and lit up social media when he tested his legs with a long acceleration on the key climb on Friday. 

    Like Wout van Aert, the cyclocross world champion arguably has the bike skills and acceleration to emerge on the Glasgow course. 

    "The bodies are going to fall out of the closet," he said, using a Dutch phrase to highlight how the course will reveal who is really on form. 

    "It's something we don't often experience, it’s a criterium with a Worlds distance: it will be an exhausting battle."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    “The person who designed this course has problems. They were perhaps drunk and nobody told them they’ve gone too far with the craziness,”

    Cosnefroy is on to you 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    Think MvdP for this one with Alaphillipe my outside pick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Too sick to race myself so it’s the couch peloton for me today.

    MDVP with Matthews as an outside chance of a medal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    And the break is formed- with Irish man Rory Townsend in it. Great to have one up there and he will surely make it to the circuit up ahead. Big cheers in prospect!

    Meanwhile little George Bennett is trying to bridge across with a chap from Uruguay and another lad from 'The Vatican' - even with God and the Pope on their side, they are not likely to make it 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    I feel like I am learning a lot about Scotland this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    Race stopped. Protest blocking the road. Don't know what it's about and don't care. I wish they'd just fü@k off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    They tend to stop more than just oil these days. Nutjobs gotta Nut..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Where is Bernard Hinault when you need him!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Going to absolutely kill the momentum of the break, such a shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Hatch so disorientated by it he pronounced van Hooydonck's first name Naythan instead of Naahthan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    Suggestions that some protesters 'cemented' themselves to the road-- footage showing the authorities fixing the surface We might be good to go again soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    It'd be surreal if you just happened to be a spectator on the side of the road where the peloton are currently stopped. Eh I'll hold your bike Mr. Pogacar while you have a drink and bit to eat 😁



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Rory looking for a few extra quid off Pinarello there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Stolen from another site.

    "Its Daily Mail readers I feel sorry. Imagine their dilemma - do we support the cyclists or the people stopping the cyclists?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    For a second there I thought the Race Director Mick Bennett was Patrick Lefevere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭Gallant_JJ


    The course is equally bizarre and fascinating, goingbto be extremely entertaining racing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Healy looks like the only Irish rider left in the peloton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Mullen and Corkery listed as abandoned on PCS. I would guess Sam will abandon too if he hasn't already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    He was first gone I think as he was riding off the back when they hit the circuit first time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭harringtonp


    Is there an online site for tracking where they are ? Just like in the TDF



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Phillipsen, asgreen, alaphillipe all gone, laporte in trouble. Still 100k to go!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    It's like a Devil Take The Hindmost on tarmac.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,507 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    This is a nuts race. It's fantastic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Has Healy missed the chasing group?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Anywhere to watch or even follow it?

    Just gcn?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,880 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Not seen Ben Healey for a bit.

    Remco bomb goes off….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Didnt see healy in that last slowmo, but thebireland soigneue had the hand up when they went through...

    Why was cosnefroy drilling on the front when laporte and alaphillipe are 1min back try to get back on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Tiz a few places online to find if you google it...

    Pcs and cyclingnews have live updates



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Whatever about Laporte, waiting for Alaphilippe would be a waste of a wait.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Just back from a spin.

    What dropped all the riders ?

    Crashes, climbs, the Marble Madness course ?



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