Price gouging by the pub, restaurant & hotel industry

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956746#Comment_120956746

Well actually, there is…it’s the whole point of the thread 🥴

Viscount Aggro

EasyHotel, Dublin.

This place opened recently.

I was expecting it to be cheap .... its not.

Lofidelity

Dublin pubs are getting out of control. "Premium" beers, such as Moretti, Peroni and Madri are €7.60 or €7.80 a pint in D6.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957464#Comment_120957464

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957485#Comment_120957485

Precisely and the whole point is that there are alternatives to hotels & fancy restaurants. If fools weren't giving them the ridiculous money they can ask for, then they would soften their cough quick enough.

andrew1977

Me and my missus were looking for a Friday morning to Saturday evening away . Hotels in all parts of the country coming in at plus 200 euro a night .

We flew to Liverpool for 40 euro return each , got a hotel ( premier inn) , 90 Sterling for the night , 2 quid each on bus from Liverpool airport to city centre , had a nice time in the city , change of scenery and cheaper drink/ meal out .Flew home Saturday evening .Family dropped us to airport and collected us .

I simply refuse to be ripped off by Irish hotel prices and won’t be paying it ,I’ll fly off anywhere on a cheaper break than sit in some Irish hotel getting charged 19 euro for gourmet burger and 7.50 a pint .

It's funny how there is folks in this thread saying "you've got no money" or "be patriotic"

Cop on. We're not thick and the Irish population have plenty of disposable income. We are smart enough to know when we are getting ripped off and can identify if the money would be better spent elsewhere. Be it a new TV or some extra bits for the house.

The hospitality industry is literally biting the hands that feed them so if anyone is reading this, the advice would be to reel in the prices a bit before you do everlasting damage to your business. Already this year Conde Nast, Lonely planet and various other publications have done articles about the lack of value for money in Ireland.

Reputation is everything. And the gougers are killing themselves.

RocketRaccoon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958352#Comment_120958352

Absolutely perfect break, as you said, why would anyone be "patriotic" and have their holes opened every time they stay in a hotel in this country?

Weepsie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120952557#Comment_120952557

I have to call bollox on this. About 20 quid for that fare,that distance. Maybe 25 with prebook charges etc

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958595#Comment_120958595

170 euro return taxi. Celbridge to the airport.

Fox Tail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957843#Comment_120957843

And those pubs are packed.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957474#Comment_120957474

That photo is at a bad angle. They missed the best bit.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957035#Comment_120957035

That place is always high priced, was that a single or double room BTW?

I hate how breakfast is not included in many hotels when booking inclusive b&b room etc.,

It does seem cheaper better value to head abroad than go somewhere in Ireland

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957843#Comment_120957843

Three Spoons in Dublin city centre, go there instead.

Fight back.

GSBellew

I was only thinking about this the other week, this is in relation to the price of a pint not the price of accommodation.

Back in the mid 90's say 1995 1996 I recall that it was about IR £ 2.00 for a pint of lager.

Back then you could buy a 3-4 bedroom house for IR £ 20k to IR £ 30k

1996 average industrial earnings per CSO € 18,752 which was IR £ 14,768

€Fast forward to 2022

Per the CSO the average industrial wage for 2022 was € 46,832

If we take a pint in 1996 at IR £ 2.00 or € 2.53 vs let us say € 6.50 in 2022

A pint has gone up by 128 percent by 2022

Wages are up about about 125 percent.

So ok, maybe I have gone a bit higher on the price of a pint than reality, but it is not a million miles of where you would expect.

Take the same house that was IR £ 20 to £ 30k that's in the € 300k bracket now.

So now when your Grandmother tells you that they were paying 12% interest point out that the house was only two years wages and go away and enjoy a pint knowing that it is not really any more expensive than it was back when we thought it was cheap.

Weepsie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958628#Comment_120958628

He said he was 5 miles from Dublin airport "as the crow flies" so maybe 10-12 km in reality. 15 mins max

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957338#Comment_120957338

This is often the line trotted out to justify gouging - "Well if people didn't pay it. . . . ".

People routinely have no choice but to overpay for things whilst being ripped off by (Irish) greed. It's never acceptable to justify it. It's causing immense damage to the country.

If you charge €999 to a desperate parent hoping to give their child a memorable experience watching Taylor Swift then you're a gouger. End of story.

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957015#Comment_120957015

What was the charge for the knives and forks?

gipi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958906#Comment_120958906

I think your house prices are a bit out (for the Dublin area anyway)

Bought first house in 1985, new 3 bed semi, it cost £36k

Bought second-hand 3 bed in 1996, that cost £79k

Both in the same area of north Dublin.

Wanderer78

jesus, maybe my 3k Icelandic holiday wasnt too bad of a deal after all, some seriously fcuked up prices across this country, no wonder people fcuk off for theirs.....

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958989#Comment_120958989

Celbridge is about 20 mins from the airport though. €170 is rip off Ireland at it's finest. I notice the airport hoppers are fairly full these days. People obviously voting with their feet.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120959150#Comment_120959150

No knives and forks. 2 slices of bread to put the rubber sausages on.

fliball123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957338#Comment_120957338

Well when the war is over and we have hotel rooms back in abundance I hope the hoteliers and restaurant owners and all others who are indulging in gouging and it is gouging (the people providing hotel rooms and pints are not the only ones gouging we are being gouged for petrol, electricity, tax, food shopping and basically any essential home repairs from plumbers to builders) get their comeuppance when the war in Ukraine is over as we will have hotel rooms in abundance and more than enough places to stay and our once vivacious tourist seasons are now long gone due to the high costs of Ireland and don't expect a handout from the tax payers.

Hellrazer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958628#Comment_120958628

I was quoted 150 ONE WAY from Dublin airport to maynooth last night. Taxi for 7 people. We got a taxi to the airport for 5 people and it was 90. So they wanted to charge an extra 60 euros for two more people. The taxis not going to use an extra 60 euros in diesel.If it does it needs a serious service.

Rip off republic is well and truly back.

purpleshoe

The whole of Irish Hospitality is rotting.

I was in the Marina Market (Cork) at the weekend. For anyone that does not know, it is an old warehouse with an asbestos roof on the docks. Very bleak when the sun is not shining, and the wind is ripping through.

15eur for 2 lattes and 2 pastries. Both coffee and pastry were fine but far from high end. A crazy price to pay really.

What particular annoys me, is the place doesn’t even have planning permission. So for the operators it is a case of “we ignore the laws, stitch it into the vendors who want a stall there, who in turn stitch it into the public.”

Paying a premium to sit in a shed, that is where Irish Hospitality is now.

As the weeks and months tick by the Irish Hospitality sector gets less and less from me. There is little pleasure from it, and more often than not when I do spend my money in the sector I experience buyers regret.

Yeah Right

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957381#Comment_120957381

Different type of room, different dates, different website, but nice try. 😉

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958816#Comment_120958816

It was for a junior suite.

DownByTheGarden

Went in for a sandwich in a hotel in Dublin city center. €12,50 for a cup of tea and a blt. That same thing in the same hotel was €4.50 before covid because i used to do it once a week then. I wont be making that mistake again.

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120960073#Comment_120960073

Yes it is, so calls into question why you said every website has the same prices.

Junior suite if for 4 people. 350 per night that is 87.50 per night per person

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120958595#Comment_120958595

Taxi prices have risen ridiculously, I believe 70/75 euro return is exactly spot on now.

I live in Dublin 7, 15/20 mins drive on the m50 to the airport, the last couple of taxis I took were 40 euro or over, one way. It used to cost me around 25 euro.

Trampas

Hotels and breakfast are just doing the Ryanair model. Places charging kids €10-€15 for breakfast when most of them just want a bowl of cereal and a juice. Should be free no matter what. The help yourself buffer breakfast the majority of them are just cheap sausages etc. The mark up must be huge on them. They’ll say well we’ve to dump a lot of it. Well they should have a good idea what’s usually goes through or do a hot food on request so nothing is really wasted. With hotels getting the government paying for a lot of rooms in them they’re not under pressure to fill beds so can charge what they like.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120960088#Comment_120960088

"Handcut Rustic Chips" were an extra 4 quid I bet.

Banzai600

its quite evident, and even judging by general costs that ppl & businesses are gouging unecessarily. Ive heard the stories around hotels etc myself, and we ourselves have changed our socialising outings, as have a lot of friends, and nobody has booked any short stays at home this year.

And we for one wont be doing any short breaks at home for the foreseeable, we'll do a city breaks abroad - which we plan two before December rolls through.

the current tourist gravy train wont last forever either, i know ppl through work - both from UK & US who are no choosing not to return to Ireland as its gotten crazy for hotels and things in general.

When you look at what you can get with trips abroad, last minute deals etc, what could cost you over a grand here for 2 /3 nights in a decent hotel ( one dinner and a breakfast ) , you'd get a week or two abroad in the sun in most cases. 10 nights with airbnb for 1150e flights and apartment - italy or cyprus, no brainer !

re taxi's - its a toxic industry, its a hard job, but i dont know what the answer is to it. We would use family or neighbours for airport hops, and vice versa, like a buddy ssytem. Wouldnt give the DAA mafia a cent for parking unless really really stuck.

Taxi's have gone expensive, no doubt, we use leap cards when heading anywhere that we need a bus if heading out for a jar.

Yeah Right

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120960091#Comment_120960091

I never said every website has the same price.

Don't know where you got that from.

I looked on their official website, booked for 2 people plus a baby and that was the only option given. That's €350 for one night for me, if I'm the main breadwinner. Why are you banging on about splitting a room between four people when there's only one couple staying there? Who's gonna split my bill 4 ways with me? You?

Padre_Pio

Some amount of nonsense from people defending the industry.

"Sure its cheap if you fit 4 to a room"

"If you think sleeping in a field is beneath you then you have notions"

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120960163#Comment_120960163

You'd be doing well, 6 euro in Parknasilla and that's on top of the 30 euro you'll pay for today's special which is grilled beef.

foxsake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120960609#Comment_120960609

boards often as a theme of poverty porn where some kn*b will point out how oppressed life in in china (or another sh1thole) and you should be only delighted that you pay excessively for the privilege of doing something mundane and god forbid you want a slice of luxury or comfort as a treat.

The Nal

Only way to stop it is vote with your wallets. A summer of half full hotels and resorts will make them change their tune.

Wont happen though. Baffling why anyone from Ireland would go on an Irish holiday. An extended one anyway.

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120960609#Comment_120960609

"Look at you with your notions of going over to a four star hotel in Berlin for €100 per night and relaxing/enjoying yourself in the summer sun when you can have Mullingar in the rain for €300 per night without breakfast. The Irish are gone all uppity since they started turning their noses up at €15 for a coffee and cake."

Honestly there is some sort of collective mental illness going on in the hospitality industry.

tayto lover

Jaysus 170 euro from Celbridge to the airport??

The taximan must have thought that you worked in RTE.

EchoIndia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120961316#Comment_120961316

Berlin is hardly "sun central". It's a very nice city either way but good weather is far from guaranteed.

Blarney_man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956366#Comment_120956366

Albania is top at the moment for what you can get for your €. Something like Croatia 10-15 years ago until it got discovered by cruisers and low cost airlines.

Beasty

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This thread is not about Ukrainian refugees

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120961599#Comment_120961599

Isn’t it a bit dangerous? I saw a Liam Neeson documentary about it.

hymenelectra

Two little incidents come to mind recently.

One was having lunch and feeling slightly robbed when the bill came. Had been many time before but won't be again.

Similar, went to a place to get a sandwich, same as usual until I saw the price was now 9.50 instead of the previous 7. Told them sorry, but I'll pass, and left.

Little small things, but it's getting easier to just say no and not go back to places.

I understand the pressures on all sorts of businesses as they are, but it really is a case of things moving to conclusion. The country is becoming financially unviable.

pat_sconce

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956963#Comment_120956963

Who says that a hotel stay is only for a holiday.

I've a golf tournament in Cork. Have to attend

Another poster has an Ironman contest.

But Cork is a great city and massive amount of things to do and see.

Only problem is the hotels are ridiculously priced, so I won't be staying in Cork

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120962651#Comment_120962651

Albania is beautiful and extremely cheap. Yes it has criminal gangs, drug gangs and high level corruption, none of which will bother you in the slightest in your 2 week holiday. Highly recommended

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058308479/price-gouging-by-the-pub-restaurant-hotel-industry

You can’t actually compare Ireland with the rest of Europe because there are vast differences between the economies. If you want cheap stuff then you do not put Ireland, Switzerland, luxembourg etc on your holiday list. You can’t get cheap stuff in expensive economies no matter what argument you come up with, you will be disappointed.

purpleshoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120962786#Comment_120962786

Quality is a factor. One would be more at ease paying the bill if the quality was good.

It is not anymore. We are payimg prices that rival those economies but not getting the same quality. Yep there are some examples that would say differently but they are becoming outliers.

The meanness that is rampant across the sector is a disgrace. The distain towards the customer that is rampant across the sector is a disgrace.

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120962651#Comment_120962651

I thought that was about Leitrim.

McFly85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120962980#Comment_120962980

That’s basically it.

Have been in Denmark a couple of times. Outrageously expensive for a lot of things, but the public see value back in the taxes they pay. Free education, hospitals, strong social welfare, well maintained and updated infrastructure etc.

Our prices go up but none of it comes back to us in any form. We have a 16bn surplus in a country where basically every public service outside of the passport office is in dire need of investment.

We are increasing demand by having multinationals set up shop but are doing nothing on the supply side and the country feels like it’s creaking.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120961075#Comment_120961075

Yep, get out of the country and fûck em… never did the Irish people any favours but the taxpayers certainly looked after them during covid.