Ire versus England - RTÉ 2 Saturday Aug 19th 17.30pm

sydthebeat · 19-08-2023 12:34pm

Steward = fullback

Stuart = Prop

the line in the bookies has reduced from 16 to 12 since the teams were named, but personally i cant see much reason for that other than possible weather implications, but it seems like its going to decent. im expecting england to be exactly as predictable as they have been. The will be kick heavy and power carrying heavy, with little ingenuity in the back line. Ford will organise, probably to a better degree than farrell, but his fist instinct will always be to kick if there's space in the backfield.

That same back row that they are starting today were made look very, very ordinary by a welsh team last week.

One we can get at least parity at scrum and lineout time, i dont think they will cause us too many problems.

39 - 17 ireland

aloooof · 19-08-2023 1:36pm

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There’s value on the Irish side of that, I think.

Interestingly saw at stat, can’t remember the specifics, but Ireland kick almost as much as England. But it’s what we do after that kick in defence, and with ball in hand when we have it, is very different.

Shehal · 19-08-2023 1:52pm

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Just noticed, down to -11.5 where I am. I never bet on warm up games but those odds are very tempting, Ireland have won every game this year by a minimum of 13 points and are close to full strength for this one. If Ireland play anything like they did in the 6N they should have no issue covering this cap.

19-08-2023 1:53pm

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pickarooney · 19-08-2023 3:38pm

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Cateym · 19-08-2023 4:18pm

It would have been far more beneficial to have lower ticket prices and to fill the Aviva for the the team's send off match.

Hurrache · 19-08-2023 4:50pm

Ferris talking bollox again about the Farrell thing.

Shehal · 19-08-2023 4:55pm

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I lost faith in his rugby opinions when he thought the hit from Leicester Fainga'anuku on Mack Hansen in test 2 down in NZ wasnt even a penalty 😂

Hurrache · 19-08-2023 5:01pm

So there's a yellow gone for review in the bunker, SA player remained upright in the tackle just like Farrell but more of an attempt to lift his arm but came out the worse.

It'll be interesting as to how this goes.

Edit, remains a yellow.

fitz · 19-08-2023 5:10pm

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Nothing like the Farrell tackle imo.

Hurrache · 19-08-2023 5:14pm

Remaining upright was the part I was talking about, not the mitigation around it.

fitz · 19-08-2023 5:35pm

England lucky not to be getting pinged for going straight of their feet at the ruck.

fitz · 19-08-2023 5:38pm

Whopper of a clearance from Lowe.

Not a great moment for Prendergast.

dublinman1990 · 19-08-2023 5:39pm

This game is going to be a tough one to decide for me today.

This game may throw off a huge hang in the balance if they don't step up to the mark to win it.

If England win today it could place them to a SF place in the WC. If Ireland win; it will give a lot of good preparation to go up and win against SA in the WC.

We know that England are a very tough team to beat particularly in the Eddie Jones era. But with that era now over; Borthwick is handling an England side that can at times be very vulnerable to an actual loss because of multiple attacks coming in from an opposing side if they don't keep up their focus on the pitch.

I would love Ireland to win by about 20 points in this game today. We do have a strong team on paper and in ability. But it is a crucial one to see show themselves up against England. But if England show their prowess and give Ireland an hammering. That won't be good for Ireland when we compete for the WC in France.