F1 2023 - Round 15 - Monza

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065012#Comment_121065012

What did he say?

Following on from Lewis saying midweek that all his teammates have been stronger than Max has had you can tell this period is killing the egos in Mercedes.

I don't suppose it is nice being knocked off a perch though in fairness.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065151#Comment_121065151

Doesn't rate the achievement and it wouldn't be something he would see as important

Toto is too much of an accountant

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063204#Comment_121063204

Awe ye watching it now along with my sister in England :)

Even if I had it live I would had not been able to watch it live as I had more important things to be doing.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065151#Comment_121065151

If you put Bottas, Russell or Nico into the second RedBull Verstappen would be doing the same thing he's doing to Checo. Max and the RB19 are a match made in heaven, the man is a generational talent and pretty untouchable when it comes to race pace. Hamilton would probably be up there with Verstappen if Merc didn't make an absolute balls of the 2022 car which is hard to swallow after dominating for so long. Toto and Horner are as bad as eachother tho

Longing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065151#Comment_121065151

Toto said; I don’t know if he cares about the records. It is not something that would be important for me, those numbers, it is for Wikipedia and nobody reads that anyway.”  All coming from a guy who keeps saying we will get Lewis his 8th WC. Who is counting numbers now Toto.

He also said: Our situation was a little bit different because we had two guys fighting against each other within the team.

So first off its already eating him up inside when you try to ease the pain with a comment like that. Second if Toto is referring to Bottas fighting with Hamilton he is away of the mark. Bottas was like a open barn door when Hamilton came from behind there was no racing Toto.

Also may I mind you Toto during Mercedes era of domination almost every team principal said they’re setting the benchmark and fair play to them we know the level we most meet to be with them on race day.

Classless from Mercedes boss.

Indestructable

Toto makes it so hard to like Mercedes. This should be their period of regaining fans and supporters, when they aren't dominating. But no, he just has to be a bit of a dose anyway.

People used not like Vettel when he was dominating but he was roundly loved leading up to his retirement and cheered on when he was in the Ferrari.

Toto and Mercedes should be trying something similar. As it is I'd rather Redbull win the next 40 races than see Mercedes win again.

2011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121064013#Comment_121064013

Yes, I admire Lewis for that. He drove well today in fairness.

AMKC

Well done Lewis for making sure that Traitor Piastri did not score any points. Great job. Even Lewis knows Piastri is a Traitor.

Great racing by the Ferrari's. Perez was animus but still somehow managed to get 2nd so that's good. Well done to Carlos. Delighted he got the podium.

Max what can I say. He is the GOAT or certainly on the way to it. Long may it continue.

F1 lose fans. That's no problem with me if it means Sky fu-cking off and F1 back on Free to Air TV.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065865#Comment_121065865

Welcome to my ignore list.

Jordan 199

Alpine had a weekend to forget.

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066537#Comment_121066537

Probably suits their campaign to be allowed an engine update being seen to go very badly on a power circuit.

doubledown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065041#Comment_121065041

But he does have an Irish passport

thefa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121064830#Comment_121064830

Just on your first paragraph, though that race was well above average for the season. It’s hard for any circuit without two bouts of rain to compete with Zandvoort last weekend and I don’t necessarily think less overtakes is less entertainment as they are very easy to rack up on certain tracks.

Vertsappen was made work for 15 laps to get by Sainz which was nice for a change with Perez on average taking a similar amount of laps to clear Russell, LeClerc and Sainz. Between those and some other action from Hamilton, Albon & more - it felt like there was some battle to follow throughout.

waynescales1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121064220#Comment_121064220

With a name like Kravitz, how could he not be?

antodeco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066788#Comment_121066788

He asked it to buy booze a few years back, I must get it back from him

Andrew76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121068498#Comment_121068498

Hahahaha well when he said it during his notebook I assumed he was half joking or else he has some faint connection.

He was talking to some chap and his kid who were from Dublin, for context where this came about. Hmmm, I wonder was that the same pair that Brundle talked too at at an earlier race this year. :)

doubledown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121068658#Comment_121068658

I met him at Silverstone last year and had a chat. When he found out I was from Dublin he said he had an Irish passport. I can't remember the reason but there you go!

Corben Dallas

@quokula

10 in a row is an utterly remarkable record, especially in such a competitive season where other teams are regularly as fast as Red Bull or very close to it at many circuits and conditions. Imagine if Max ever got a truly dominant car under him like the sorts we’ve seen for most of the last decade.

10 in a row is an amazing achievement, easier when Perez is in the second car and RB is Team Max and actively nobbling Checo.( and pretty much all of his previous team mates Gasly, Albon as well)

Also "Imagine if Max ever got a truly dominant car under him like the sorts we’ve seen for most of the last decade... " 😲 Eh I Imagine he has one now.. and none of the other teams are even close to RB on pace....regularly as fast???!!!! what F1 season are you watching????!!!

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Leclerc drove a disgraceful race for Ferrari... sat behind Max and never even got near him (could have utilized a double tow from Sainz and Max)... didnt really fight Perez when he came by, just sat there conserving his tyres... until ..... a podium and the Italian GP was up for grabs... HE COMES ALIVE!!!! and nearly takes his team out over the last 2 laps. Vasseur >Ferrari Team boss should have been screaming at Charles to get his arse in gear and push Max over the first 20 laps and should have called Team Orders for last 4 laps to hold behind Carlos and insured Ferrari 3rd/4th.

Russel could have been grinning ear to ear on the Podium if Leclerc misjudged it by a few cm more.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121069293#Comment_121069293

You seem to be under the impression that Sainz has a "Number 2" contract and LeClerc has a "Number 1" contract. Ferrari have denied this and Carlos is free to develop himself into a better driver then LeClerc if he wants.

PsychoPete

I still don't know how the two Ferraris didn't hit eachother. I love that Ferrari told Leclerc "no risk" then he goes wheel to wheel with Sainz

Corben Dallas

Carlos and Sainz have equal status in Ferrari as far as I know... its more about common sense and good Team management. No way Leclerc should have been allowed to fight for the last few laps.

Sainz may have cracked Leclerc's main strong suit ... ie his qualifying pace. Carlos was consistenly faster all weekend.

flazio

I don't think either are potential World Champions but I do think that Sainz is the smarter Grand Prix racer. Might be the World Champion stock of his father.

In a way being the leader around here can be a bit of a curse, you're the one punching a hole in the air, using up your tyre wear while everyone behind is just basking in your slipstream. Sainz and LeClerc are quite evenly matched, even though the stats do lean over to Charles a bit more.

Frank Bullitt

That is 2 good races on the bounce now. Max showing again and again, even with changeable conditions and a tougher competitor, he is the class of the field.

Has to be said as well, operationally that Red Bull are also on another level this year. Pitstops are always rocket fast, right calls at the right time, set up is bang on.

This is Schumacher-Ferrari stuff. Just the best mixture of driver and team.

thefa

Enjoyed this with Palmer. Shows how desperate both of the drivers moves were at stages.

https://youtu.be/KlwSmqENRV4?si=_yt8knR1YZUTDSFl

shootermacg

Leclerc didn't put Max under any pressure, he just hung back, nursed his tires. If he was attacking Max, he would have taken the pressure off Sainz. His Job IMO would have been to try and pass Max, defend and try to build a lead for Sainz. 

rock22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121085679#Comment_121085679

Have to agree here. Leclerc only began pushing when he was trying to get past his team mate. Is he considered the No 1 driver in Ferrari?