Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

Nigzcurran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101429#Comment_122101429

Nice 😎👌🏻

dxhound2005

This one might also be relevant. The question would be whether devices being used in the fraud now could be called computers.

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2001/act/50/section/9/enacted/en/html#sec9

Johnboy1951

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101855#Comment_122101855

It might well be, but I would have a query about that, namely, that act appears to deal with "ownership" for the most part, which as I understand it is not the same as being the copyright holder of something.
This is probably why a separate copyright infringement act was necessary.

dubrov

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101359#Comment_122101359

You say that but then offer no evidence to support the claim. Your choice to believe what you like

irishgeo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122102403#Comment_122102403

Which claim?

animalinside

I really don't think they would go after the individuals for just streaming, they can't penalize half the country. All they need to do is contact the ISPs or the VPNs showing that such an IP address is delivering illegal services and require them to shut off that IP address.

Cardsharing on satellite used to be far superior for sports due to the clarity and speed of motion. However if Sky are really thinking of migrating to streaming-only services for some people maybe they're now competitive in quality (probably Sky are thinking of doing it to cut costs and hope people don't notice a big difference). This all assuming you have a perfectly fast connection yourself. The downside is you can only get the channels your satellite can pick up while in IPTV you can get them from around the world.

TheDriver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122104553#Comment_122104553

The licence fee takes huge man hours and information. And they struggle.

They can't go after everyone. Especially as many don't have any knowledge of their "firestick" other than its dodgy.

Good luck if they're going to get info from VPNs. Their whole job is to be elusive.

Johnboy1951

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101359#Comment_122101359

If you choose your VPN carefully you can be as sure as possible that you cannot be identified even via VPN logs. Nothing is 100%, but the closer it is to 100% the more effort it would take to get any usable information from your VPN.

If this is to be believed - and it has been audited - then this is about as secure as you will find.

https://protonvpn.com/support/no-logs-vpn/

irishgeo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122105008#Comment_122105008

That would be the same company that handed over user data before despite a no logs policy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983

Its fairly pricey at 120 a year.

So my point is proven.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122105665#Comment_122105665

That is not ProtonVPN, that is ProtonMail, same company different services.

They are based in Switzerland, under Swiss privacy laws they can be compelled to turn on a certain level of logging for email but not for VPN.

Johnboy1951

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122105665#Comment_122105665

So to support your view you link to an instance of a legal requirement to provide emails.

That has nothing at all to do with the VPN service.

Try again!

In addition you claim it costs €120 per year, which is clearly false.

It costs exactly half of that.

https://protonvpn.com/pricing

The only proof you have shown is that you are deliberately attempting to spread false information.

jj880

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101359#Comment_122101359

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122105665#Comment_122105665

I can see your head is in the clouds.

The naivety of people who think email data is the same as VPN data. Declaring your own point "proven" will not save you.

irishgeo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122106414#Comment_122106414

They offers say for the first 12 months if you read the small print.

Johnboy1951

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122106998#Comment_122106998

Well 12 months is a year where I come from.

But you can have the same price per year if you want two years.

Best to stop digging when you are in a hole!

irishgeo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110044#Comment_122110044

It still goes up to a 120 euro a year after the 2 years.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110698#Comment_122110698

Switch to another one then.

This isn't very hard to be fair.

dubrov

You can't teach someone who doesn't want to learn

ooter

Why do people refer to these devices as "dodgy boxes?"

Most of them are perfectly legal, nothing dodgy about them.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110883#Comment_122110883

It's the ones that are not perfectly legal that are dodgy.

davemaur

They've been saying this for years.

Gusser09

Lol.

Regardless of using a vpn you will not be targeted for iptv. It wont happen.

ooter

Can someone give me an example of a "box" that's dodgy, is an Amazon fire stick dodgy?

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110944#Comment_122110944

The ones that are not perfectly legal. You know about them already.

timetogo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110944#Comment_122110944

A box (android or otherwise) that has apps installed to stream copyrighted content from illegal sources.

I know you can install some of these apps to android on TVs but that definition fits 90% of what people call "dodgy boxes"

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122110944#Comment_122110944

The phrase came from Card Sharing years ago.

You would buy the sat tuner or cable tuner with c-lines preloaded. You can still do this AFAIK.

The hardware is perfectly legitimate, it's in fact the software and what it does is "dodgy".

ooter

Exactly, the vast majority of devices you can buy are perfectly legal and not dodgy at all.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122111016#Comment_122111016

But it's the ones which are not in the vast majority which are dodgy.

ooter

I don't know of any devices/boxes that are illegal but keep hearing there are devices that are, I'd love to know which ones are so I'll know to avoid them if I'm offered one or see one on sale online or in store.

Johnboy1951

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122111166#Comment_122111166

As explained above …

the hardware is NOT illegal
It is the use to which it is put that can be illegal.

Some come preinstalled with software that facilitates illegal use.

Butson

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