Shooting of Ta'Kiya Young

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065480#Comment_121065480

You need help,

Beefcake82

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065394#Comment_121065394

That screen capture is as she starts accelerating. Try again 😁

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121058558#Comment_121058558

If I think you’re going to run me over with your car while I’m standing in front of your car, especially after you’ve refused a lawful request by a police officer to get out of the car, 12 times, then I’m going to shoot you. The skin color of anyone is irrelevant.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065575#Comment_121065575

If one can't see a sliver of good in every one or a bright side on the darkest day, it must be a hard and cold existence.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121059976#Comment_121059976

But she wasn’t agreeing to be questioned. 12 times at least she refused the most basic request a policeman can make of you. “Get out of the car”. She decided to use her car to run over the cop instead. The cop didn’t want to be run over so he shot her. Anything more is pure speculation.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065685#Comment_121065685

Again she didn't have to get out of the car ,she didn't consent to her or her car being searched,she wasn't under arrest not was she mamirandised ,there was no probable cause to detain her , being the cop's had Zero evidence she has actually committed a crime, she didn't run over anyone either,but yet it's been repeatedly claimed ,

The cop could easily taken half a step and being away from the car but no he threw himself Infront of the car while pointing a loaded weapon with his finger clearly on the trigger

Lawful order, the new boards buzzword

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065793#Comment_121065793

How do you think police investigate a reported incident?

they speak to the alleged suspect, confirm name and address, all she had to do was answer their questions. Not so difficult.

instead she decided to drive her lethal weapon at police standing right in front of it.

could have been avoided, just answer the questions.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065837#Comment_121065837

First they should have gone into the store to speak to a manager and look at CCTV before deciding to Shoot and unarmed pregnant woman in the head ,

See thats how you investigate anything from a minor theft to more serious crimes,

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065853#Comment_121065853

well zero points for you for your investigation skills. How do you expect them to know who the hell the suspect isif they don't question her?

And they didn't decide to shoot an unarmed pregnant woman, they shot the driver of a lethal weapon.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065922#Comment_121065922

They shot an unarmed pregnant woman... There was no weapon ,

Bar the 9mm Glock used to kill her

That's how you investigate things you find out if a crime has been committed in the first place, that's how it works,

Not arrest a innocent person until you find a crime to match to them .

But then again I've seen your previous claims

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065931#Comment_121065931

A vehicle is absolutely a lethal weapon.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065934#Comment_121065934

But in this case it wasn't a lethal weapon

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065944#Comment_121065944

No, because police stopped the threat.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065961#Comment_121065961

By executing an unarmed pregnant woman,who committed no crime

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065965#Comment_121065965

Just stopped the threat, that is all.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065736#Comment_121065736

The cop wanted to shoot her, on that we agree.

gameoverdude

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066022#Comment_121066022

Sorry, what? They were out to kill her?

Beefcake82

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065853#Comment_121065853

This is how investigation actually works.

1. Accusation made woman stole from store, cops called
2. Cops show up and detain woman for purpose of investigation under Terry vs Ohio having Reasonable Articulable Suspicion to detain woman due to accusation she had committed a crime.
3. Cops go to question woman as is procedure, while she is legally detained.
4. Woman decides she has nothing to answer for and refuses to engage cops in talk instead attempting to flee by driving into cop standing in front of car as attempting to flee a legal detainment is in itself a crime, so she has actually broken the law at this point that is provable.
5. Cops order woman to stop, she refuses and continues to drive into cop there by becoming a threat, she gets shot, she dies, her own fault, consequence of her own actions.

How it SHOULD have worked IF she was reasonable after step 3

1. as above
2. as above
3. as above
4. Woman engages with cops to explain her side of story while detained and other cop goes to store to question manager/security/check cctv to determine if a crime had been committed.
5. If no crime determined to have been committed, woman set free and gets on with living. If crime determined to have been committed, woman placed under arrest, transported to jail for booking and detainment before appearing in front of a judge for arraignment.

This is how investigations actually work or in this case played out in first group compared to what likely would have happened per second group if she was reasonable. She fucked around, assaulted a cop with a car, cop shot her in response, no execution, no racism as much as u keep beating your drum. You can claim all you like its not assault cos she was "turning her wheel", but she wouldn't have had to clearance to maneuver around the cop yet she continued to drive into him while under lawful orders to stop due to legal detainment.

You and the others race baiting and peddling rubbish that the cops are gang members, executioners, racists (which you have NO proof of) etc is just nonsense. Your nonsense has been debunked many times and when you are beaten in facts you come back with outlandish claims that are not backed by any evidence. You can keep making emotive posts to decry the police actions all you like, however i do not believe there is a need for this to go further legally for the cops.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066052#Comment_121066052

Nonsense .

Debunked many times rflol 🤣🤣🤣 outlandish claims,

Recently registered say no more

CrazyEric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066108#Comment_121066108

It hasn't been debunked.

On page one of this thread I asked you, Gatling, 2 simple questions, you haven't answered them.

If she obeyed the legal request by the other officer to open the door/window would the outcome have been different?

If she didn't illegally drive her vehicle at an armed police officer carrying out his duty would the outcome have been different?

You will not answer these questions. You will waffle and talk rubbish and try strawman arguments but you do not have the courage to answer them honestly. Everyone can see your race baiting for what it is.

Gatling

Another one

Sandor Clegane

Honestly at this point its hard to feel sorry for some of these people, its common knowledge now that police in America will shoot to kill over the smallest of things, there isn't a person in America who doesn't no this at this stage, so driving a car towards one is basically suicide.

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066150#Comment_121066150

What would the outcome have been if the officer did not stand in front of the car with his weapon drawn when there was zero evidence of threat?

What would the outcome have been if as the car moved, not accelerated as it was just in drive, the officer had not continued to place himself in front of the car rather than simply getting out of the way?

Should the lady have acted the way she did. No. She reacted in fear and went into “flight” mode. Would things have worked out better had she not.100%. Now she had what seems like an irrational dread of what the officers might have done with little to no threat. Except now it doesn’t look quite so irrational.

It looks to me that police in the US have exceedingly poor training in how to deal with people under stress. You don’t de-escalate by pointing a gun at a 21year old pregnant mother who is panicking. And as much as we know that the right thing to do was calmly switch of the car, people do not behave rationally when panicking. Officers trained to recognise when someone is an immediate threat or when de-escalation strategies are more appropriate would have put down his weapon before she ever moved the car, or never drawn it in the first place. But by escalating he exacerbated the situation and further fuelled her panic which was also fuelled by the record of cops shooting first when faced with black drivers.

Was the lady irrational and did her actions contribute to her death. 100%.

Was the officer ultimately culpable through a failure to deal with the situation on a proportional manner initially and then choosing escalation rather that de-escalation. 100%.

Ultimately though it’s the training and work environment and policies for police forces in certain areas that is culpable in this situation.

I have seen videos of situation where a white officer when faced with an armed block suspect has successfully de-escalated. If correctly trained there is no reason that can’t deal with unarmed equally well

Padraig Mor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066050#Comment_121066050

That poster has stated on multiple occasions that the cops wanted to kill a black woman that day in order to get "inked" with a gang type tattoo they could show off down the precinct. Seriously - I'm not making that up. There is of course no evidence for this other than their imagination. As such, you can see they are an extremist anti white racist and can safely be ignored as no amount of logic will move their position.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066297#Comment_121066297

I supplied evidence for my take on this in those posts you allude to. The Columbus area police allow their officers to be tattooed and there are known police gangs operating within the country, along with documented culture and training that encourages officers to seek out sex as a reward for using lethal force. I can post those again if you really need.

There was no hesitation by cop here, he was already applying pressure on the trigger, he kept having to move to stay in front of the vehicle to claim assault, the vehicle never is heard to rev up, the driver cuts the wheel right away from them. To suggest the victim wanted to kill the officer is a gross exaggeration of statutory vehicular assault, the cop wanting to kill the suspect however is supported by the evidence.

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121059929#Comment_121059929

Lies. Attempted murder on a police officer is a very serious crime. She was shot after attempting this.

Beefcake82

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066108#Comment_121066108

Ah yes my date of account creation must show how i lack basic reasoning and critical thinking skills to challenge your race baiting nonsense. 🙄

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066370#Comment_121066370

what attempted murder? At idle speed, steering away from the officer? Lies.

Beefcake82

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066318#Comment_121066318

Again referencing cases that have no bearing to the facts of this case. If you want to debate about how cops are racist gang members or compare cases perhaps you should take up another thread to discuss.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066393#Comment_121066393

These were Columbus Ohio cops. Columbus Ohio changed policy to allow officers with tattoos. It’s plenty relevant when police gangs use these tattoos for their membership.