11811 - does it even work anymore?

carfinder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121085643#Comment_121085643

Nope yourself. You claimed that "Anyone in the phonebook gave explicit consent to be listed". You have now pivoted to implied consent. You yourself have proven your original position to be untrue. Bobbins indeed. You're welcome

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121086273#Comment_121086273

Keep on spinning to deflect from your inaccurate ideas of the GDPR. Which was the entire point here

At no stage was the point here about pedantry on what type of consent was given - consent was given and the GDPR doesn't apply.

I'm completely done replying to pedantic trolling.

carfinder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121086276#Comment_121086276

Sigh, yet again I am quoting your assertion that "Anyone in the phonebook gave explicit consent to be listed." Instead of conceding that you were wrong on that point, you make cowardly allegations of pedantic trolling, which I think is a breach of the charter but don't let that stop you.

For someone who accuses others of inaccurate ideas of GDPR, you should be embarrassed to make an assertion that phonebook listings had given explicit consent when this is patently untrue.

GDPR and the explicit consent hurdle is exactly why directory enquiry businesses didn't adapt their business model to provide services that would have market appeal

JohnC.

When I got a phone line, I had to give consent to be listed, or refuse.

This is the data protection information regarding the NDD (National Directory Database) which is the information that all of the Directory Enquiry or online directories operator from:

https://www.dataprotection.ie/index.php/en/organisations/rules-electronic-and-direct-marketing/ndd-faqs

The current NDD manager is a company from the Netherlands called PortingXS, who also manage the database that is used for number portability between networks.

They maintain and manage the database of numbers and names and addresses. You can opt in or opt out entirely, you can be listed so that you can only be seen on Directory Enquiries and you can also note that you don't accept marketing calls.

Eir has no involvement in the management of the directories anymore. ComReg put it out to competitive tender and I don't think Eir really even wanted the business and just saw it as an overhead. So, it ended up with a specialist company that deal with numbering databases etc

Eir ceased delivery of phonebooks to every house quite some time ago and they switched over to only delivering them to households who'd ordered them. Only around 2400 customers requested a phonebook, so the whole thing was just scrapped in 2020. They ceased to publish phone directories.

Meanwhile, the company that was running the online phonebook has just given up on residential listings entirely. They're the company that owns Golden Pages. Again, that's a bit of a legacy business and not very useful anymore.

There's no great business interest in publishing phone numbers anymore. It's dead tech.

(On a side note, the porting system used in Ireland operates using a shared and central database, so when you make a call your phone company's servers look up a database to check to see where your number is hosted and the calls are sent to that provider. It's a bit like the way a DNS lookup works in concept, but it's not identical to that process.)