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Not being allowed to take flexi-time/not being paid overtime

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  • #52
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121256543#Comment_121256543

    Someone who is of a mind to be whingey about the hours required for a particular position is not likely to be successful on a fast track path into management.

    Listen. A) AO is not a "fast track" into management - maybe it was sold that way years ago when they introduced the grade, but it's not been the case for at least a couple of decades, now.

    B) The OP was not being "whingey about the hours required" - they're being denied what's absolutely part of the terms and conditions of (almost) every CO, EO, HEO and AO across the civil service (yes, exceptions where people are on shift work or have to staff public offices at set hours) - apart, apparently, from this one Department, which is in breach of numerous agreements and civil service circulars. They're working more hours than they need to, and not getting overtime or flexi. Why would they do that?! It doesn't go into their file, it won't come up when they go for promotion. Their annual PMDS will still be rated as either "Satisfactory" or "Not satisfactory."

    C) "it's not worth getting fond of if you have management aspirations, because APs don't get it." Except for the ones who do get it? And OP could be an AO for several more years, so why wouldn't they want to avail of an entitlement, in the meantime?

    It really comes down to the OPs goals.

    It has nothing to do with the OP's goals. They're an AO. They're entitled to flexi, unless it's been withdrawn from them for some specific reason.



  • #53
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,559 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121196612#Comment_121196612

    What an idiotic post.


    OP please ignore that rubbish.



  • #54
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121195737#Comment_121195737

    The Terms and Conditions of an AO allow for Flexi and OT.

    The Terms and Conditions of an AP do not allow for OT, you are expected to work above and beyond. Most APs do not get flexi (some long standing APs do).

    Why should an AO work longer hours that they’re not paid for?

    You are not comparing like with like. An AO not working extra free hours will not affect their promotional chances in any way whatsoever.



  • #55
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121195885#Comment_121195885

    Ah yes… 100% of people in the private sector work at 100% capacity 100% of the time.



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