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Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    “We have fought in the Israeli courts for years against this as most of the village is under threat of demolition and they have done this before,” said Eid Suleiman, a resident. “But they came this time without telling our lawyer. We didn’t have time to collect our belongings.

    “We have put up some tents to keep the children cool in the heat. But we are afraid the soldiers will come back and take those too because they say we are building illegally.”

    Masafer Yatta, a collection of shepherding hamlets including Umm al-Kheir, is located in area C, the sparsely populated 60% of the West Bank under full Israeli control. Palestinian infrastructure in the area is frequently demolished on the grounds that the residents do not have building permits, which are nearly impossible to obtain, while surrounding illegal Israeli settlements flourish. UN experts have said such demolitions can be considered war crimes.

    Just another day in the West Bank. Lives ruined by colonialist theft of land. All supported by the West.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,091 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    More on the above -

    " Through cooperation and collaboration among the military, police,
    settlers and the Jordan Valley Regional Council, Israel has reduced
    grazing areas available to Palestinians, blocked regular water supply
    and took measures to isolate the Jordan Valley from the rest of the West
    Bank.

    This policy is nothing new. Israel has been undermining these communities’ subsistence
    for decades, in part, by denying Palestinians’ access to nearly 80% of
    the Jordan Valley declared as firing zones, nature reserves or the
    municipal area of settlements."

    https://www.btselem.org/video/202403_israel_has_ramped_up_efforts_to_displace_shepherding_communities_in_the_northern_jordan_valley_since_7_october#full



  • Registered Users Posts: 51,743 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,091 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    'a beacon of freedom', 'the light of freedom' etc. You occasionally wonder what it is that some people are on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,564 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Interesting article that sheds light on how Hamas has been able to sustain their war effort despite what looks like a complete blockade.

    If Israel can secure the territory beneath the Philadelphi Corridor that's already under their control, they will be able to do a lot of harm to Hamas.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Yet instead they just bomb the **** out of hospitals, refugee camps and civilians. If they really really wanted to root out and destroy them then they should have been looking at the supply line and the leaders in Qatar, but no they just decided to butcher ordinary Palestinians because they get away witg it



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,091 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    "Two more Palestinian men, injured during
    a military operation in the occupied West Bank last week, have told the
    BBC that Israeli soldiers forced them on to the bonnet of an army jeep
    and drove them – sometimes at speed – along village roads.

    Their accounts came days after footage of 23-year-old Mujahid Abadi Balas clinging to the bonnet of what appears to be the same Israeli army jeep sparked international outrage."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw4y91032d1o

    It should be pointed out that using human shields was standard official practice until a number of years ago, until outlawed by the Israeli supreme court. Old habits seem hard to shake.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,739 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    No doubt the posters condemning Hamas for using human shields will be on here very soon to condemn the IDF for using human shields also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭pjordan


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457502-middle-east-gaza-israel/

    This latest update from Gaza begs a couple of questions

    1. For all the destruction caused in Gaza and in the face of the supposed might and intelligence of the IDF and the amount of boots on the ground and drones in the air, how are Islamic militants still able to accumulate the hardware and resources to fire off a sustained barrage of rockets like this 9 months into this conflict when most civilians in Gaza are at the pin of their collar trying to find food or sufficient fuel to cook it?
    2. What purpose do these Islamic fanatics (or Hamas for that matter) serve to the ordinary long suffering citizens of Gaza with this farcical "show of strength" or defiance. Again for those wondering where their next meal is going to come from (I doubt something that concerns many militants or Hamas fighters) this is hardly a morale booster?



  • Registered Users Posts: 51,743 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    There are 3 entities involved, Hamas, the IDF and the innocents. The innocents fear the other two and obviously keep their mouths shut in order to try to survive.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    Protest in Israel against a scheme to transfer seriously ill Gazans for treatment abroad. What kind of ghouls are these



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