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Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,680 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Perhaps you could say the persecution of the Palestinians has its origins with the drawing of the Sykes-Picot agreement in 1916.

    There was no such thing as a 'Palestinian' in 1916.

    Or are you saying, the 100,000 Jews who lived there are also 'Palestinians'?



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,680 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The nations displaying the most outrage of a Hamas leader being killed are Russia and China.

    Strange bedfellows for lads here banging on about Human Rights.

    I wonder what human rights Hamas and Fatah grant their own citizens?



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,680 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    You tell us then, why did the Arabs reject the UN resolution 181(II) and attack Israel multiple times?

    You are either for international law or not. But it seems you agree with the Pan Arab alliance on this one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭thatsdaft


    You and that poster with the Trump name keep trying draw parallels with Ukraine but in the process all you do is debase the Palestinian cause and parrot Putin’s talking points (the same Kremlin that sent death squads and missiles to kill zelensky but failed, so there’s also hypocrisy sprinkled in as usual)

    Ukraine/ Russia conflict is nothing like this clusterf**k in Middle East, nothing. Ukranians didn’t respond to an unprovoked attack on them by levelling whole cities despite being of range of both Belgorod and Donetsk, they uphold international laws and try to get help from allies

    Perhaps pause for a minute and consider that if your are agreeing with Iranians and Russians that it might be you who is in the wrong about things

    And notice how I said nothing about Israelis, they unleashed hell precisely because the terrorist killed today unleashed the largest terrorist attack on civilisation since 9/11, what they done to Gaza is wrong on so many levels, but no amounts of far left whataboutery and regurgitation of Kremlins lines would make HAMAS and their leaders right



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Haha, yeah maybe you should consider that you are the one acting exactly like the Russians and Iranians, only you're being a hypocrite about it too :pac:



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,483 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    We don't know how many are dead and it's a complete guesstimate how many members Hamas has. The vast majority killed are not members of Hamas.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,483 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    You are ignoring the actual findings of the UNSCOp. Take your ignorance somewhere else at this stage.

    Predates the 1920s too. You don't know half of what you think you do



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Also given that 15k of those killed are children it's a bit fanciful by even the most ardent pro israeli posters to claim the vast majority of hamas militants have been killed. And this after 10 months of bombing Gaza.

    To be honest the strike on the Hamas leader was a good deflection from the news today of another soldiers indicted for abusing palestinain prisoners. What is that 10 now?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,464 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Bibi to speak to the Israeli nation tonight probably usual sh1te.

    Lots of airlines canceling flights to the Lebanon now

    USA issues a no not travel notice to Lebanon.

    Think we're going to need another thread soon enough.

    Dark times, more civilians are going to pay the price for a situation they didn't create.

    All Eyes On Rafah



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,483 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    The establishment of Israel went against all of the then very young UNs laws and violated in many ways the declaration of human rights.

    It was done because the USA strong armed countries that were in record of being against it and the UK abstained because they were in record of knowing it to be both morally wrong and legally questionable. But you were told all this months ago, given links to academic research, given research by the some of the foremost experts on both UN law and the middle east and you basically went nahanahanaha I'm not listening



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,732 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Israel is there now. Unless you think the country will be dis-established we have to deal in reality instead of looking back with what ifs.

    Most want a two state solution but the Palestinians would also have to accept it and their leaders need to stop aping Iran and calling for Israel to be wiped off the map. And Israel needs to accept it too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,795 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre




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