KIA EV3

AMKC

Due out next year probably be mid to late next year.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/kia-ev3#comment-381678

Looks OK. Just another SUV do :(

Miscreant

This one, I will definitely be looking at seriously. I have a Soul EV right now and absolutely love it so this looks like it may be used by KIA as the replacement.

Like with the EV5 though, I will wait until a production ready version before I decide. 🙂

fafy

Looks good, and seems to be very similar in size to the new Volvo EX30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058298633/volvo-ex30/p1

TitianGerm

https://youtu.be/oKMxBw0RtcM?si=quYnLvbYD73NZLl_

Nobby has a first look up on YouTube.

Looks great to me and could be a serious option when we eventually change the Ioniq 5.

Edit: Nobby maybe you'd be able to shed some light on the actual size of the car in the metal? It looks bigger than an ID3 and much closer to an ID4 size in the video. Where does it compare in person?

fafy

has some very nice touches, looks impressive, a little odd the smaller battery is not coming here.

another review here from Autogefühl, i like this German guy, he goes into some of the detail other reviewers don’t.

https://youtu.be/502-rrnEefA?si=mdt7ZWM5Yap5i4gE

ffocused

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175292#Comment_122175292

press release contains all the info including dimensions.

https://www.kianewscenter.com/News/kia-ev3-delivers-elevated-electric-suv-experience-for-all-with-innovative-technology-and-advanced-de/s/6f0a8f45-a919-4d48-a602-ddaf955aba50

In summary, it’s roughly the width of ID4 and length and height of ID3

EV3

4300mm L 1850 W 1560 H

ID3

4264mm L 1809 W 1564 H

ID4

4584mm L 1852 w 1640 H

Oafley Jones

Looks great. Better looking car than the EV9.

edit. That speed warning OTA update can't come soon enough.

MarkN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122176103#Comment_122176103

yes because he gets special treatment from a lot of the brands, more time with cars, studio first looks etc whereas the rest of us have to elbow our way into car premieres when he’s been in a studio that afternoon with time to do multiple takes :)

The channel is huge though so fair play to him.

Old diesel

I know this is supposed to at least indirectly replace the eSoul.

But the 81 kwh battery pretty much makes the Niro EV surplus to requirements.

I'd expect current happy eNiro drivers to be much more likely to buy this then the current Niro EV.

Also unless Kia really scrape the undercarriage out of things with pricing.

Then this has potential to offer real value for an 81 kwh battery car.

Especially if as reported the EU goes ahead and slaps 25 percent tariffs on chinese EVs.

Edit

Obviously talks of 32 grand sterling and the like in Uk will be for a 58 kwh car with the 81 kwh attracting a premium on top

ColemanY2K

My concern would be the poor drag coefficient (is that what it's called?).

I do 250km round trips (75% motorway, 25% N/R roads) three times a week and then ~250km across the other four days. This car wouldn't be for me given the amount of motorway driving I do which is a pity as it looks like a really nice machine. I particularly like the amount of physical buttons which is going against the grain of modern EVs.

Busman Paddy Lasty

Hyundai/Kia make efficient cars though. The 64kWh Soul did 310km at motorway speed when Teslabjorn did a range test. I'd be surprised if Kia make a newer similar car with less range.

Oafley Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180925#Comment_122180925

0.26 isn't that bad. It's better than the EV6, ID3/4s

D_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181023#Comment_122181023

I was going to say the exact same... Have no idea how this has a better Cd than the EV6

denismc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122175292#Comment_122175292

I was thinking the same, but this looks to be a bit smaller than the Ioniq 5, especially in the boot.

All depends on price though!

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181075#Comment_122181075

There's a bigger EV5 on the way too.

denismc

130kW charging speed is a little disappointing, I guess they are marketing this as a local commuter rather than a motorway cruiser.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181054#Comment_122181054

Cd is only half of the story. The A, i.e. the front cross section is an important part of the CdA.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122179527#Comment_122179527

You'll need to start wearing blue suits Mark 😉

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181175#Comment_122181175

It's certainly nothing special for an 81kWh battery in this day and age

I was kind of picturing it like the ID.3 with a 58kWh battery. Mostly for shorter trips but very capable of doing a longer trip if you want to

I presume this has the 800V architecture as well? I would have expected closer to EV6 charging speeds in that case

D_D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181491#Comment_122181491

No, they went for a 400V architecture for the EV3 to save on some cost to keep the price low… Results in the charging speed being approx. half of the EV6 and the 800V architecture

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181500#Comment_122181500

Ah that's interesting, I thought all of Kia/Hyundai EVs were going to be 800V from now on

It's very strange considering they went for the bigger battery anyway. I wonder where the extra expense for 800V comes from, I always assumed it was down to needing more batteries in series but maybe it's something else

In any case a VW with a 77kWh battery is now charging at 185kW peak, so 130kW is definitely not fantastic nowadays

Busman Paddy Lasty

Don't the EV6 and Ioniq5 use the motor to step 400v up to 800v or something like that. So a price sensitive smaler EV3 might not be able to accommodate the size and cost of doing that.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183075#Comment_122183075

If I remember correctly, the motor in the EV6 steps up the 400V from the charger to 800V to charge the battery

It's smart because otherwise you'd need a separate converter like the Porsche Taycan, which could be power limited

It also saves on costs because you don't need extra components

There's other way to do the same thing, for example the Porsche Macan splits the pack in two when connected to a 400V charger, so it'll actually like it's charging two batteries at half the current each

Obviously it's better to use an 800V charger, but it makes the best of what you get

While an 800V motor, controller and charger would cost more than a 400V version, it's hard to imagine there's that big a enough cost difference to matter. Particularly when Kia is already making those motors for other EVs

I wonder are they buying in the components from a vendor instead of manufacturing them

Otherwise I just can't wrap my head around it 🤷‍♂️

Busman Paddy Lasty

Cost is what I'm going with, assuming lower size/power 400v motor is cheaper, factoring in cooling apparatus and warranty uncertainty.

Marketing material for EV6 and Ioniq5 was VTL omg microwave a pie! Charge from 10 to 80% in 12 minutes. They don't need that charge speed for non flagship car so I guess margin is their focus.

Oh I was so used to 56kW charging with Niro I'd blow my load getting 100kW never mind 130.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181175#Comment_122181175

This shows how charging curve can be just as important as the peak rate.

You see the actual claimed charging time on the EV3 is 10 to 80 percent in 31 mins.

With the 81 kW pack this requires an average charging rate of 109.7 over the whole session.

Suggesting an extremely flat charging curve up to 80 percent.

Worth looking at Nissan Ariya charging tests because the real life Ariya charging tests align really well with what Kia are claiming in both peak charge rate and charge times.

The big Ariya pack is only 7 kwh more than the long range EV3 in usable capacity terms.

John arse

I think it's gorgeous - compared to it's ugly sister the EV5, just my opinion.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283664#Comment_122283664

I think it is the better looker of the 2 as well. Just waiting to see pricing now, which will be interesting considering KIA have just dropped the price of the Niro EV by about €4.5k to around €38.5k.

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283772#Comment_122283772

You don't want to hazard a guess by any chance? 😉

John arse

Dropped ev6 price too to make way for new facelift model.

TitianGerm

Looks like order books are opening first of August in the UK and prices start at £33K.

ffocused

UK pricing is broadly in line with Niro EV, apart from 58kw version which is a bit less.

My guess is we will get 2 trims Earth approx €40k and GT Line approx €45k both with 81kw battery and heat pump after grants.

https://www.kia.com/uk/new-cars/ev3/pricing/

kave2

When will EV3 be available here? Any info on pricing? I

Stallingrad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181023#Comment_122181023

Same as an Opel Calibre somehow.

freddieot

I see kia UK already have them on their configurator. They also have the refreshed EV6.

I'm hoping myself that kia ireland get their finger out soon as I'm interested in changing soon.

padjocollins

https://youtu.be/Lu7qbFWf6i0?si=WtiNcPsKvd1y287f

Exiled Rebel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122629682#Comment_122629682

It'll sell like hot cakes if as your man claims it has real world range of 560km.