Crime - UK having the same problems as us apparently

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058318856/crime-uk-having-the-same-problems-as-us-apparently

I think what the Brits do have more is a stronger police force and better equipment, CCTV etc.... Walking around Dublin city centre one hardly ever sees the Garda.

kirk.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121263807#Comment_121263807

Hard to understand your posts

Why is overpopulation the problem

Facthunt

Shop lifting seems to be a big issue at the moment. But I don’t believe the gardai do much about it when notified. Is that still the case?

kirk.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121273002#Comment_121273002

The UK anyway the shops don't do much about it either so I read

hymenelectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121272983#Comment_121272983

There are the primary, easily understood effects of too many people.

Housing is the easiest of all as it is static. People live in homes, if there are not enough homes, scarcity drives costs up. Homelessness increases. Employment opportunity decreases. Social mobility goes in the toilet. There is very little to attribute to efficiency or leadership or policy. Easy.

Every year for the last numerous years the government looked at the housing crisis, acknowledged it, and still allowed ever more people to arrive into the country. Year after year. Textbook overpopulation.

So what? That's where the secondary, less clear, effects of over-population kick in.

Take the teacher shortage. There are less and less teachers in some areas due to the cost and capacity issues, dublin being a prime example.

This puts teachers that would otherwise be working away into a position where they simply cannot. Hey presto, less teachers matched with an increased demand of more and more people. Any teachers here can chime in and verify.

This in turn will put off younger people going into the profession as wages are simply out of step with reality. Problem exacerbates.

So what looks like three distinct issues, housing crisis, mass migration, and teacher shortage, is actually just one issue.

Schools, teacher shortage, overpopulation.

Prisons, gardai shortage, overpopulation.

Hospitals, staff shortage, overpopulation.

It's counterintuitive at first, as in "how tf can the population be growing of working age people, yet staff shortages also be growing further and further out of reach?".

We've trapped ourselves in a spiral. Instead of trying to fix every last problem that over-population brings, which is demonstrably impossible if youve lived here for the last decade, we should focus on the problem itself.

All simplified here, but it's a clear cut thing at the end of the day. Primary effects of overpopulation meeting secondary effects. Textbook stuff.

hymenelectra

To simplify it, just imagine the effect of 3 additional, EMPTY, limerick cities popping up in the morning. Fully working cities, all facilities attached, accommodation, healthcare, schools, prisons, transport etc.

The effect would be untold. Amazing.

Now consider that the reality is that we have had the equivalent number of people (if not much more) just arrive into the country WITHOUT those spare cities.

What effect would it have? No need to wonder, we're living the experience.

Really awkward to acknowledge, but really easy to understand.

kirk.

What's your solution

Kimbot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121260054#Comment_121260054

At max or over in most cases: https://www.irishprisons.ie/information-centre/statistics-information/2015-daily-prisoner-population/2023-prison-population/

hymenelectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121273641#Comment_121273641

Well the first thing to be done in fixing a problem is to acknowledge the problem exists.

Secondly, there needs to be a halt on migration into the country. Full stop.

Thirdly, there needs to be a targeted effort to reduce the extra population.

For example an examination of the entire visa system, a complete overhaul of the refugee system, a reclassification of what meets the criteria of "necessary" work, a complete overhaul of the notorious English school system that is in actuality a back door migration system, a ring fencing of social welfare systems, a ring fencing of social homes and so forth.

No need to opine "what about the economy?", the economy is a nothingburger that has contributed zilch to these ever growing infrastructure deficits. A bandage, at best, and that's being generous.

No need to talk about various obligations, eu and otherwise. Anything that obligates oneself to be worse off is to be challenged and changed, as a matter of self preservation.

There's nothing easy to be done, but I can tell anyone that the current course of pretending to be thick isn't working, importing hundreds and hundreds of thousands of extra people has had a near decade to prove itself as beneficial, and it has proven itself the precise opposite.

Everlong1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121273600#Comment_121273600

You still haven't demonstrated what any of this has to do with our crime problem. Until you do please don't post any more rants about immigration. There's already a massive thread for that.

hymenelectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121275231#Comment_121275231

Yes I have demonstrated it.

Why don't you answer this question, for the sake of your own elucidation.

What is the commonality between the issues of housing, healthcare and the education sector? The most pressing.

Or rather, if you prefer, what is the commonality shared between the country's infrastructural problems?